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I think that a lot of this angst comes from people who complain because whatever has been said might upset someone else.

I have a simple message for them.

Butt out.

Mind your own goddam business.

If 'someone else' might be offended then let them take up the cudgel....not you. Kappisch?
 
RogerS":y4qh26ln said:
I think that a lot of this angst comes from people who complain because whatever has been said might upset someone else.

I have a simple message for them.

Butt out.

Mind your own goddam business.

If 'someone else' might be offended then let them take up the cudgel....not you. Kappisch?

I quite agree =D> =D> =D>
 
Be real shame if they are, Allen ....
For one thing, its part of our british culture and heritage, and
for another, as you say .. " Freedom of Speech ".
Something which should be core to a democratic society.
But we don't have that freedom anything like as much as we should do, any more. :(

This place isn't as much of a 'free country' as it once was, and as much as some people seem to think it is. :)
 
What is going wrong? Nothing! I thought this was what the 'workers' were supposed to be aiming for.

Roy.
 
Roger, just had a read of the article in the telegraph. There seems to be a problem in my opinion, that there is a group(s) of people that appear to be hell bent on making out that they can do and say whatever and where ever they like and f.. the rest of the main. Like it says in the paper why and how can they seem to get away with it!!!!!! I'm sure that you would have trouble having a sensible conversation with them without being a little bit on edge. Incase you said the wrong word or said something that offends. I am not raciest in anyway, but my temp rises when you get these Tw.ts giving it out in large portions. The Romans had a good idea. You would see the odd head or two stuck onto a spikes on a wall. Even emperors were not out of reach to this outcome. We are (most) a little bit more civilised these days, well in this country at least.
 
Strange - I don't recall the Telegraph complaining about Louis Farrakhan being banned - and I recall them screaming about some extremish Imam being allowed in.

I'm a bit uneasy about this (and it's obviously backfired) but one can't have it both ways.
 
What has become of Smudger? does anyone know? I have'nt seen him posting for ages.

Rich.
 
He has been conspicuous by his absence ... hope all is ok ? :(

Just a thought at an ungodly hour of the day, ok .....
Happened to catch a bit of Radio 4 earlier ... a Dimbleby "question time' type show...
and one of the points related to bits of this discussion..

The questioner asked the panel :

Where does one draw the line between the
(a) Right to free speech &
(b) The Right not to be offended.

Universally - the panel of commentators / politicians / journalists etc
blew '(b)' completely out of the water.
there IS no 'right to not be offended', and neither should there ever be.
All stated the right of free speech to be 'sacred' in our society.... one chap added, if ever such a mindset of a 'right to not be offended' became commonplace, then that would represent one of the saddest days in history, and would clarion the requirement to take the document defining 'freedom', and consign it to the nearest available incinerator.

Best 'sense' I've heard coming out of my car's tranny for many a month.
:wink:
 
Never say anything you would not say in front of your Mother
That is the Best way not to offend anyone(At least in my case) My mom was a special Lady (Esp. To Me)
Freedom to say your piece is nice if it does not land you in jail. :D
 
Grinding One":eaiatpue said:
Never say anything you would not say in front of your Mother
That is the Best way not to offend anyone(At least in my case) My mom was a special Lady (Esp. To Me)
Freedom to say your piece is nice if it does not land you in jail. :D

It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.
A tenet passed onto me by my mum (RIP) It's held me in good stead. :)

Rich.
 
I've just received this in an e-mail and I think it is relevant to today's society. Apologies if you have already seen it or are too young to understand it :D


CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL MY FRIENDS WHO WERE BORN IN THE

1930's 1940's, 50's, 60's and early 70's !
(You all are)

First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they carried us and lived in houses made of asbestos.

They took aspirin, ate blue cheese, raw egg products, loads of bacon and processed meat, tuna from a can, and didn't get tested for diabetes or cervical cancer.


Then after that trauma, our baby cots were covered with bright coloured lead-based paints.


We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets or shoes, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking.


As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags.


We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle.


Take away food was limited to fish and chips, no pizza shops, McDonalds , KFC, Subway or Nandos.


Even though all the shops closed at 6.00pm and didn't open on the weekends, somehow we didn't starve to death!


We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this.


We could collect old drink bottles and cash them in at the corner store and buy Toffees, Gobstoppers, Bubble Gum and some bangers to blow up frogs with.

We ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank soft drinks with sugar in it, but we weren't overweight because......


WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!!


We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on.


No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K.


We would spend hours building our go-carts out of old prams and then ride down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. We built tree houses and dens and played in river beds with matchbox cars.


We did not have Play stations, Nintendo Wii , X-boxes, no video games at all, no 999 channels on SKY ,

no video/dvd films,

no mobile phones, no personal computers, no Internet or Internet chat rooms..........WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!



We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no
Lawsuits from these accidents.



Only girls had pierced ears!



We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.



You could only buy Easter Eggs and Hot Cross Buns at Easter time...



We were given air guns and catapults for our 10th birthdays,



We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just yelled for them!

Mum didn't have to go to work to help dad make ends meet!



RUGBY and CRICKET had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!! Getting into the team was based on

MERIT



Our teachers used to hit us with canes and gym shoes and bully's always ruled the playground at school.





The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of.

They actually sided with the law!



Our parents didn't invent stupid names for their kids like 'Kiora' and 'Blade' and 'Ridge' and 'Vanilla'




We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned HOW TO

DEAL WITH IT ALL !
I can see you all nodding your heads and saying "yes that's right"



And YOU are one of them!

CONGRATULATIONS!


You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as kids, before the lawyers and the government regulated our lives for our own good.


And while you are at it, forward it to your kids so they will know how brave their parents were.


PS -The big type is because your eyes are not too good at your age anymore
 
Filsgreen ... I have seen it before, but its as true and valid now, as it was then, and it always will be.

For the drum-bangers here and everywhere, who think we've evolved and progressed... therein lies the undeniable testament to illustrate how very wrong you are.

:wink:

A. ( Born in 1965, and stuck in about 1978, and 'stuck' there with absolutely no bloody regrets either. )
 
Jenx, with your last comment, you said,

For the drum-bangers here and everywhere, who think we've evolved and progressed... therein lies the undeniable testament to illustrate how very wrong you are.

Who are you calling drum- bangers, leaders (government) or the general public.
 
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