pe2dave
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I said hand tools, but... I can't disagree with the drill James! On the 'nice to have' list?
Excellent logic Doug. She said woodwork so I'll stick to that, but will mention it. Thanks.
Advice to a 15 yo wanting a woodwork career
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Tris
What am I doing here?
Niche market:
https://www.veganviolins.com/
I nearly choked on my coffee but to be fair the guy behind it is a luthier with 40 years experience. He might be worth contacting is she's seriously interested
https://www.veganviolins.com/
I nearly choked on my coffee but to be fair the guy behind it is a luthier with 40 years experience. He might be worth contacting is she's seriously interested
thetyreman
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I'd be interested to know how they glue it together? presume they don't use hot hide glue because that's about as anti vegan as you can get.
thetyreman
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a few places I could think of she could contact.
- Crimson guitars in dorset, they do some good courses and I know have an interest in developing female luthiers,
- Daisy Tempest at Tempest Guitars
- Rosie at Turnstone Guitars, she is probably my favourite luthier.
- School of Music Instrument Crafts, Newark College
- Roberto Venn School of Luthiery in the USA
Even if she can't get an apprenticeship at these places I'm sure they will know of a way of helping her find work, at the very least I think she should be reading some books on it, I quite like melvyn hiscock 'make your own electric guitar' and 'make your own acoustic guitar' which somebody on here sent me one year as my secret santa gift! and on youtube there's a guy called ken parker archtoppery, I learnt a lot from guitarmaking.co.uk as well, mark is a great teacher who is very no nonsense, it's well worth the cost of subscribing for a few months, I learnt so much from him.
- Crimson guitars in dorset, they do some good courses and I know have an interest in developing female luthiers,
- Daisy Tempest at Tempest Guitars
- Rosie at Turnstone Guitars, she is probably my favourite luthier.
- School of Music Instrument Crafts, Newark College
- Roberto Venn School of Luthiery in the USA
Even if she can't get an apprenticeship at these places I'm sure they will know of a way of helping her find work, at the very least I think she should be reading some books on it, I quite like melvyn hiscock 'make your own electric guitar' and 'make your own acoustic guitar' which somebody on here sent me one year as my secret santa gift! and on youtube there's a guy called ken parker archtoppery, I learnt a lot from guitarmaking.co.uk as well, mark is a great teacher who is very no nonsense, it's well worth the cost of subscribing for a few months, I learnt so much from him.
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pe2dave
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@thetyreman Many thanks, very useful.
Tris
What am I doing here?
Doesn't give details of the process but:
https://www.classicfm.com/discover-music/instruments/violin/worlds-first-vegan-violin/
Ttrees
Iroko loco!
I've got plenty of that partiallly ethical type hide ifi yer looking for some 
Some good points here have been raised here, and generous as usual,
something ye don't see too much of these days.
I don't think location has been mentioned, i.e rural or urban,
as a shed would be a boon...should that be possible???
If not, but should there be some utility room, etc,
then things would certainly need to be slim lined, possibly worth taking a leaf from
some Japanese carpentry, i.e planing beam(s) on trestles.
A little CV of sorts with some projects might get ones foot in the door somewhere,
and if not, a taste of cabinetmaking or whatever to get started.
Worth noting there's not much women doing the whole social media thing, if any...
a few doing DIY and luthiere, but there's likely plenty of mini docs out there.
Also worth noting the furniture course in Letterfrack seems to be fairly balanced,
if last years showcased chairs are anything to go by.
All the best
Some good points here have been raised here, and generous as usual,
something ye don't see too much of these days.
I don't think location has been mentioned, i.e rural or urban,
as a shed would be a boon...should that be possible???
If not, but should there be some utility room, etc,
then things would certainly need to be slim lined, possibly worth taking a leaf from
some Japanese carpentry, i.e planing beam(s) on trestles.
A little CV of sorts with some projects might get ones foot in the door somewhere,
and if not, a taste of cabinetmaking or whatever to get started.
Worth noting there's not much women doing the whole social media thing, if any...
a few doing DIY and luthiere, but there's likely plenty of mini docs out there.
Also worth noting the furniture course in Letterfrack seems to be fairly balanced,
if last years showcased chairs are anything to go by.
All the best
I thought it was sticking a record player where the sun doesn’t shine.
I have a sample set of four daughters which suggests this is only true in 25% of cases
pe2dave
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Bench hook, yep, easy to make.
Vice... (in the 'nice to have' bracket?)
Worth spending on (IMO) and a lifes purchase...
Shhh. My first 5 years I used a workmate ;-)
pe2dave
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Some answers @TtreesI've got plenty of that partiallly ethical type hide ifi yer looking for some
Some good points here have been raised here, and generous as usual,
something ye don't see too much of these days.
I don't think location has been mentioned, i.e rural or urban,
as a shed would be a boon...should that be possible???
If not, but should there be some utility room, etc,
then things would certainly need to be slim lined, possibly worth taking a leaf from
some Japanese carpentry, i.e planing beam(s) on trestles.
A little CV of sorts with some projects might get ones foot in the door somewhere,
and if not, a taste of cabinetmaking or whatever to get started.
Worth noting there's not much women doing the whole social media thing, if any...
a few doing DIY and luthiere, but there's likely plenty of mini docs out there.
Also worth noting the furniture course in Letterfrack seems to be fairly balanced,
if last years showcased chairs are anything to go by.
All the best
+1 on responses / generosity
Urban. 'shed' already full of siblings ... stuff. (a hard one)
+1 to trestles (workmate?) as temporary 'shed'
+1 to CV / apprentice pieces.
Not heard of Letterfrack (one to look up)...
[guess it's not Letterfrac is a small village in the Connemara ]
Jameshow
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Jameshow
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How about building a workbench?
Perhaps over the summer holidays?
Also an apprentices toolbox?
Good practice at mortice and tenons / dovetails respectively.
I had a colleague who gave up a good career in electronics, major german company, back in the mid 90s to do cabinet making. His knowledge of wood and joints was little but his passion, design and flare was a driving factor. No youtube in those days just books and watching diy shows. From tinkering in a shed with bits of pine he started with the basics, a table. Last time I saw him he was making ash furniture for a church. Encouragement thats all your relative needs. Plenty of furniture courses out there but deep pockets will be needed.
pe2dave
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Ttrees
Iroko loco!
Had a look to see the video I was on about, but couldn't find it.
It showed what looked to be a good atmosphere, but I suppose Rycotewood and the likes
would be also.
The only way a workmate could work for hand planing, is to have two of them,
with a top which could butt up against a wall or such, so would need be long enough for the job,
otherwise the plane would bash into.
A floating top could be stored upright when not in use.
Ben's trestles look like they'd be good for the job, much like Kris Harbour's ones
or even something like this which I grabbed from the Lumberjocks website.
It showed what looked to be a good atmosphere, but I suppose Rycotewood and the likes
would be also.
The only way a workmate could work for hand planing, is to have two of them,
with a top which could butt up against a wall or such, so would need be long enough for the job,
otherwise the plane would bash into.
A floating top could be stored upright when not in use.
Ben's trestles look like they'd be good for the job, much like Kris Harbour's ones
or even something like this which I grabbed from the Lumberjocks website.
Sgian Dubh
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I'm late to this thread, but as others have said the furniture, joinery and carpentry world can be a tough male dominated one for females. Of those three it's my experience that the most accommodating one is in furniture, primarily in the high end one-off custom furniture line. I've taught several female students of furniture and most of them are still involved in the business or they've branched out into fields related to their learning, e.g., lutherie, jewellery, ecclesiastical work, sculpture focused primarily on wood, and so on.
When I started in the 1970s there were plenty of opportunities for a keen youngster wanting to work with wood, and furniture was my passion. At the time there were still plenty of small to medium businesses that specialised in either high end one-offs or decent quality batch production of mostly solid wood standard items that could be modified to some extent for an additional payment. Naturally, there were the mass producers of furniture as well and their work environment were generally as repetitive, controlled boring and soul destroying as you can imagine. There are still some out there that I'll refrain from naming.
Still, there are opportunities and if this girl can marry competence in the digital field (3D design, CNC capability) along with design flair and practical woodworking skills there may be a decent living to be found. Most people think of CNC kit being utilised for knocking out masses of cabinets from man-made panels, and that's true, but I know of a few businesses that use the digital capabilities I mentioned above to mostly create high quality one-offs in mostly solid wood, but they're also very capable at knocking out masses of parts that they send to a separate part of the workshop for assembly prior to shipping those assemblies out to their clients. Slainte.
This popped up in my YouTube list today. It might interest your niece.
johnnyb
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One amazing lady that springs to mind is the tiny Turner. She may be at Harrogate. Started out carving realised she could demo at turning clubs never looked back. She's an engaging personality as well.https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.thetinyturner.co.uk/&ve...4QFnoECAwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2nFfrNRifyXFDlHy_dGkEM
pe2dave
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Beg to differ?
I worked for 4 or 5 years, no workshop, no bench. The workmate my only support. A stool supported the other end when needed (I built 8' high units that way). A bodge, but ... needs must and all that.
IIRC I used the workmate to build my workbench.
