Coronavirus

[NickM]

The only thing I'm not now clear on and that is if we all avoid social contact as much as possible then how will herd immunity build-up ?

It will build up eventually, just more slowly which means the NHS can cope with the consequences and help those who really need it. That's the theory, which seems a sound one to me. Whether it can be achieved will depend on how good we all are at complying with the advice (which is more concerning I think...).

 

[RogerS]

I see the title to the thread has changed - has the plug been pulled again?

No?

No, the thread name can be changed as well by the OP ..thetyreman, in this case and who is being extremely childish.

 

[Cheshirechappie]

Well, listening to the Three Musketeers just now on the radio, they came across rather well, I thought. Sensibly proposed and none of the draconian "If you are Over-70 then you will stay at home for the next four months'. Usual media exaggeration which some of us, myself included , fell for.

No outright closure of bars, pubs etc. No need TBH because they will wither through lack of business.

The only thing I'm not now clear on and that is if we all avoid social contact as much as possible then how will herd immunity build-up ?

Yes - credit to the BBC for broadcasting the statement in full and (more or less) uninterrupted, so we know what those responsible said, and not some hack's second hand interpretation.

Does anybody know where the 'herd immunity' thing came from? Was it direct reporting of an official press briefing, or a story written on something 'an unnamed Whitehall source' is alleged to have said?

The economic consequences look likely to be severe. We can only hope that the measures announced today will not last too long, but even 12 weeks might well be too long for many. Very sobering.

 

[MikeG.]

Now it's "Cornvirus". =D> =D> :lol: :lol:

 

[Bm101]

Herd immunity is fine in the aftermath for survivors or those immunised.
In the bit in Braveheart where you got all them scraggly fellas with no military training and pitchforks against the heavy english cavalry you might want to be listening a bit less to the likes of ministers and Johnson.

Because right now that's us.

Robert the Bruce and all them fellas on Horses at the back way put of long bow range. That's your politicians.

Remember that mad fella in Braveheart? I told you it was my island. *mad gurning*
Ireland have just shut all bars and pubs for two weeks.
Boris says try not to mix too much.
Ireland stopped smoking in pubs two years before we got round to stopping people smoking in hospitals.
I'm a bit baffled by the uk tbh.
Take care people.

 

[Chris152]

That brought some lightness to my evening, Chris - much needed after the broadcast.

Hearing the broadcast clarified things for me - taking the kids out of school as of today, I can't see the point in me going about the place social distancing, washing and singing endlessly when they're in school coughing and spluttering over each other, sharing keyboards and (most insane of all under the circs) paying for the tray of food they're about to eat for lunch by pressing fingers on the print reader that pays for the meal. No doubt I'll be summoned for keeping them home, but there you go.

Good to see things stepped up, even if it does all sounds a bit optional.

 

[Bm101]

Also.
Test people on cooking in shops.
Wtf madam. You want to buy 15kg of rice. Are you a keen rice eater?
Ohhh. Yes?
Ahhh and what's your normal procedure for producing a problem free fluffed light basmati?
I... I... boil it? For 25 minutes?

.*Presses Red Button. Yes no problem at all Madam please take the left hand door to leave the store.
*whispers into collar mike* Another live one for mincing... over.

 

[Terry - Somerset]

Following the banking crisis 10 years ago there was some real clarity about what needed to change rapidly:

- separate retail from casino banking
- increasing bank reserves to make them more resilient to market problems
- proper stress testing of individual banks

Sadly I suspect that clarity has given way to compromise and political expediency so there must be a big risk of failure. On the plus side we know how to bail out the banks and then implement another decade of austerity to pay for it.

 

[Trainee neophyte]

Now it's "Cornvirus". =D> =D> :lol: :lol:

An anagram of coronanvirus is carnivorous, just in case tyreman feels like a change.

 

[Trainee neophyte]

Everyone is very down on people buying too much food, but if you are told to self-isolate for 14 weeks, how much food should you buy? Or should you self isolate, except when you go out?

Confused, Milton Keynes

 

[MikeG.]

You don't have to buy 14 weeks worth of food in one go (I think it was twelve, wasn't it?). You can still get deliveries. You can ask for people to shop for you.

 

[Trainee neophyte]

You don't have to buy 14 weeks worth of food in one go (I think it was twelve, wasn't it?). You can still get deliveries. You can ask for people to shop for you.

I have been watching Chanel4 news recently, as a Hobson's choice, nothing else will stream option. Some chap today was saying the UK food supply system will fail, because, as with all systems, it is now just-in-time. Probably scare-mongering, panic inducing ratings grab, but if there are shortages, anyone who bought in advance will be better off than all those who, through peer pressure, were forced into assuming life as usual will carry on.

He who panics first panics best.

(Should those who bulk bought in anticipation be forced to share with those who were "good citizens", and selflessly restrained themselves from thinking ahead?)

 

[AES]

QUOTE: Should those who bulk bought in anticipation be forced to share with those who were "good citizens", and selflessly restrained themselves from thinking ahead?) UNQUOTE:

Or should those who've apparently nothing better to do than consistently see the worst side of everything instead just shut up and stop panicking themselves plus trying to panic everyone else within their out-reach?

Sorry Trainee neophyte, but your persistent doom and gloom mongering, based largely as far as I can see on your excessively pessimistic view of the world and its inhabitants is beginning to get on my male mammeries (such as they are).

IMO there's nothing in the least funny about what's happening - everywhere - and your (apparent?) attempts at humour (?) aren't improving things one jot.

 

[doctor Bob]

I shall be growing potatos this year ...............

 

[Bm101]

You'll be counting on first croppers then Bob!

 

[Cheshirechappie]

Some chap today was saying the UK food supply system will fail, because, as with all systems, it is now just-in-time. Probably scare-mongering, panic inducing ratings grab, but if there are shortages, anyone who bought in advance will be better off than all those who, through peer pressure, were forced into assuming life as usual will carry on.

He who panics first panics best.

(Should those who bulk bought in anticipation be forced to share with those who were "good citizens", and selflessly restrained themselves from thinking ahead?)

No. Rationing would be introduced before it reached that stage. There are no shortages, just selfish people panic buying. Some of the supermarkets are already restricting quantities per customer of some items.

It would be divine retribution if the panic buyers contracted obesity-related diseases as they gobbled their stash before the use-by dates.

In other news, my mum found an old book of petrol coupons left over from the 1940s, in her dad's name. I've told her to hang on to them, just in case. Mind you, my car's a diesel, so I may have to do a trade with someone ...

 

[Doug B]

I shall be growing potatos this year ...............

You’ll be lucky to have any much before June though Bob, hopefully if I do have to have some time off I’ll be self isolating down the allotment

 

[Andy Kev.]

Everyone is very down on people buying too much food, but if you are told to self-isolate for 14 weeks, how much food should you buy? Or should you self isolate, except when you go out?

Confused, Milton Keynes

I panic bought two bars of Lindt Cognac Chocolate.

Now I feel guilty and tainted.

 

[Bm101]

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[Andy Kev.]

To be serious for a moment: It's important that the elderly self-isolate. However, they still have to eat etc. and naturally they will want a bit of fresh air now and then like everyone else.

I wonder if it would make sense for the shops, supermarkets and cafes to reserve a two hour slot exclusively for the elderly. That way they might stay safe because if they've not got it and if the shop assistants wear face masks, they should be OK.

There's bound to be a flaw in my thinking and it might not be practical but I wonder if it's worth a thought.