Need an Air Filtration System for my workshop

[RedMist]

Hi all,

I am a fairly new woodworker who has been surprised by the amount of dust my new powertools make (planer thicknesser, table saw etc)

Want to err on the side of caution and get some type of Air Filtration System.

Currently looking at a model on Rutlands for £200, can anyone suggest anything that will clean up my workshop air from microdust for any cheaper?

thanks!

 

[pike]

http://www.yandles.co.uk/record-power-a ... elay/p5004

That's what I think I'll be getting once I have power sorted to my shed.

 

[PAC1]

Do you need filtration or dust extraction from each power tool. There is no point inhaling the dust and then cleaning it. It is best to contain it at source

 

[pike]

He said "air filtration" to "clean up .. workshop air". So I can only assume he already has a vac/extractor.

 

[AJB Temple]

I think we are talking a zero dust collection starting point here?

 

[pike]

RedMist are you using a P/T without any extraction? I read it as you just want filtration and assumed you already have some form of P/T and tablesaw extractor/vac.

 

[RedMist]

Thanks Pike, that'll save me a few quid.

I am slowly building up my collection of nozzle adaptors to hook my dust extractor up to everything as I work, but want this as a safety basically.

 

[MikeJhn]

RedMist

Do you have a HVLP extraction system for your fixed machines, or are you relying on a LVHP vacuum?

Mike

 

[skipdiver]

If you already have adequate extraction for all your machines and power tools, then i would recommend the Record Power unit. I have one and it does clean the air rapidly. Your first requirement though is to stop at source as much dust as you can from entering the air in the first place.

 

[RedMist]

Another thanks for the Record Power unit idea, it's been set up a few weeks now and working really well

 

[pike]

Great. I wish I'd got that deal myself, it was a good price. Now I've got power to my shed I'm waiting for another sale.

 

[skipdiver]

Great. I wish I'd got that deal myself, it was a good price. Now I've got power to my shed I'm waiting for another sale.

It's cheaper at D&M Tools with free delivery as well. It's where i got mine from.

 

[MikeJhn]

From Bill Pentz site, D14 and E make very interesting reading: http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclon ... fm#HowMuch

Mike

 

[Keithie]

^
Exactly what Mike said.

Having got my head around the theory of hvlp & hplv and cyclones vs baffles, the practice is a bit more challenging. Kinda like vw and emmissions. Some brands are simply better than others.

My assessment of it is that a broom is good for chippings and if you aint wearing a p3 facemask for fine dust then you'll be sorry.... unless you are massively overspecifying your kit. Taking dust as best you can at source makes sense and a background machine or two to try and deal with the fine stuff inevitably left floating around in hobby workshop, is gonna help prevent everything being coated in fine dust

 

[Jacob]

Yes to taking it away at source.
A dust extractor connected to your planer etc will still clear the air of dust finer than it's rated for (mainly because it gets clogged up) so just leaving it running will help. I often do a quick ******** around the workshop - old vacuum cleaner which blows through a nozzle on a pipe - dislodges stuff from all corners - coarser stuff settles on the floor and finer stuff ends up in the extractor.
For hand power tools a Trend T30 is brilliant. It's only fault is you can't connect it to blow, so I still need and old vac for dusting purposes.

I wondered about getting the Record unit, it looks a good idea. But I imagine it's the last resort - better to let your at source extraction run on for a bit and only switch the Record on later - or it would fill up pretty fast.

 

[pike]

From Bill Pentz site, D14 and E make very interesting reading: http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclon ... fm#HowMuch

Mike

Mike, could you give us your opinion instead of just linking to further reading. I don't know exactly what you're trying to say.

A lot of people have and recommend the AC400. No one is saying it's perfect or a solution on its own.

 

[pike]

I wondered about getting the Record unit, it looks a good idea. But I imagine it's the last resort - better to let your at source extraction run on for a bit and only switch the Record on later - or it would fill up pretty fast.

Yeah it's obvious (to me at least) that it is not a one machine solution. It's just another thing that might help clear the air. My understanding has always been that you'd do exactly what you said and turn it on for a bit afterwards.

Agree about the T30! Great vac.

 

[MikeJhn]

IMO trying to concentrate all the fine dust into a unit hung from the ceiling is like trying to push a rope up hill, the way to get rid of fine dust IMO is to blow it out the door, you don't want it concentrated anywhere, filters don't work on material that fine we are talking under 0.5 micron, you would need a very dirty filter to take out that sort of micron dust, then, eventually you have to clean the filter and the exposure problem starts all over again, I think BP's idea of open the workshop door and have a fan sucking the air through the back wall is a sound idea, just ensure it sucks into a very open area on your property and leave it running for half an hour after you have finished making dust.

Forgot to mention correct PPE is always needed.

Mike