Thanks Blister. Thanks DaveyP, your law of averages is spot on. You must have a degree in it. I wont be so bothered when i place the big order in a couple of weeks with Mike as I will have plenty to be going on with now. Hopefully the order from hobbies will be here tomorrow, Wednesday at the latest, wish i had ordered more tubes now to keep them all in. Gill reckons the Hobbies blades are the same as FD blades so that will be a bonus. I notice there is quite a saving by buying them by the gross from Mike. I am keen to try out his ultra reverse, he sent me a couple to try out. Thanks again.