I thought we needed more places - not less
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Phil Pascoe
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I had a local newspaper from 1957. There was an article in it about someone who walked into a chip shop, shook the pepper pot in the assistants face and demanded the contents of the till. When another customer walked in he ran away without the money but was chased and caught. He was taken to court for armed robbery and gaoled for fourteen years.
To actually serve fourteen years now, you'd have to be a mass murderer - that incident would probably not even make court. They're just not gaoling most crooks.
To actually serve fourteen years now, you'd have to be a mass murderer - that incident would probably not even make court. They're just not gaoling most crooks.
Dusty
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The only reason for "spare" space is that the judges have gone soft and no longer send people to prison when they should .! Quite simple really when you read your local rag and see that Mr X was caught steeling £300 worth of alchohol to feed his addiction and is then given 7 minutes of community service ( which he wont turn up for ) !
There is no longer any deterrent to prevent crime and judges to lax in their powers . Hence spare room !
Ta ta
There is no longer any deterrent to prevent crime and judges to lax in their powers . Hence spare room !
Ta ta
John Brown
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Fewer.
devonwoody
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Lets face it, UK is going bust.
They are going to cut down staff with this move and everything to do with governments in the past generation seems to be going that way. ( Remember we havent even got any aeroplanes for those aircraft carriers.)
Mps want a 20% increase in pay, can you run a country with your servants expecting that? :lol:
When China gets going I reckon we will be lucky to get a bowl of rice a day! :wink:
I was on the M25 the other week and it seemed to be all bmws, audis and mercs.
I'm OK this morning not depressed, honest.
They are going to cut down staff with this move and everything to do with governments in the past generation seems to be going that way. ( Remember we havent even got any aeroplanes for those aircraft carriers.)
Mps want a 20% increase in pay, can you run a country with your servants expecting that? :lol:
When China gets going I reckon we will be lucky to get a bowl of rice a day! :wink:
I was on the M25 the other week and it seemed to be all bmws, audis and mercs.
I'm OK this morning not depressed, honest.
Dangermouse
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It would save a lot more space in prisions if we lined 'em all up against a wall and shot the blighters :wink:
Heath Robinson
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Line 'em all up against the workbench and get them making nice budget furniture... Worked for ikea and the Stasi!
devonwoody":cpkpow0k said:
Er no its not, even Greece is not going bust. The UK is still one of the biggest economies in the world with the worlds 6th biggest manufacturing sector and the go to place for many industries to get stuff made quite apart from the financial sector which is the biggest in the world no matter what mess it seems to have got us into.
devonwoody":cpkpow0k said:
Yes, they don't need prison space - that is good news by the way so why pay for empty buildings and staff? Don't be guided just by the news headlines, UK employment is higher today than any point since 1971.
The aircraft is more to do with poor planning and subsequent governments not being consistent in what they do and it is ridiculous but more cock up than conspiracy.
devonwoody":cpkpow0k said:
Well if asked in a secret ballot, I would want a pay rise as well. Actually I would ask for more money in a public ballot as well
Although by national average pay levels they are well paid, by senior management standards they are poorly paid. I don't agree with Dan Hodges much but I think he is bang one here http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danho ... ously-low/
Trouble is the timing is rubbish, politically it would be a spectacular own goal if, in the current austerity policies that such a large increase was approved. Therefore it is incredibly unlikely to happen.
devonwoody":cpkpow0k said:
They have got going and it is excellent news. The more countries industrialise, educate, and grow their economies the better it is for the whole world as more people are doing stuff and consuming stuff. If 1 Billion more people want cars, TV's and online bingo the global economy benefits.
devonwoody":cpkpow0k said:
Yes, because they are better than all the others :wink:
devonwoody
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Hi gareth, thanks for heads up. Dont take me too seriously, but just goes to show there are always two sides to a discussion.
devonwoody":3v28qfvw said:Hi gareth, thanks for heads up. Dont take me too seriously, but just goes to show there are always two sides to a discussion.
No worries DW, don't usually see you getting political on here. Might be time for a cuppa!
RogerS
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cutting42":3m9kl6fh said:
Yes, that's because rapists are getting let off with a caution.
More than 100 rapists have been let off with a police caution, it was revealed yesterday. The 111 cases included 66 incidents of child rape.
The extent to which police forces have handed cautions to rapists, whose crime carries a maximum sentence of life in jail, was made public as Justice Secretary Jack Straw announced a full-scale review of the system of punishing crime with cautions and on-the-spot fines.
graduate_owner
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Regarding Devonwoody's comments on 1 bowl of rice per day - if you commit a crime and get gaoled, you'd probably be entitled to 3 decent meals a day, plus a TV in your cell with no licence to pay.
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devonwoody
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graduate_owner":38f3ac2j said:
How do you know that?
I reckon when the Chinese get to the state of 90% of their population in manufacturing we better be considering a different sort of existance. :wink:
RogerS
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cutting42":cq625hns said:
It was from 2009.
Losos
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Dusty":1aaxddns said:
Agree, has anyone on UKW ever met a judge :?: I ask because you never see them on TV, no one knows where they live, they get a chauffer driven car and special houses on their circuit (Heaven forbid that any judge would have to stay in a hotel :lol: )
And they spend so much time reading the law and analysing every little word and comma and hyphen and trying to interpet it in a way which will enhance their career. It's time our judiciary got out in the community instead of living in their isolated glory and thinking what clever fellows they are.
Dusty
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Losos":10ya3qta said:
Agree, has anyone on UKW ever met a judge :?: I ask because you never see them on TV, no one knows where they live, they get a chauffer driven car and special houses on their circuit (Heaven forbid that any judge would have to stay in a hotel :lol: )
I have to admit I have had the joy ( sarcasm ) of the company of an X-Maistrate judge , and he was a totaly self serving arrogant muppett . After many conversations , he was convinced that sending people to prison was not the answer !!!
Got to say that if I saw his house being burgled , I would jump in and lend them my van so he knew what it was like to be on the receiving end of crime !!
Ta ta
RogerS
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Losos":ukum0p61 said:
Mmmmm.. to answer you questions
1) Yes ...one is my neighbour
2) why would you expect to see them on TV?
3) Maybe a good idea not to know where they live...given what they do
4) Not sure about the car. His wife usually drives him to the station.
5) don't know about houses
Is he an ar*ehole? Yes !!
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