Cheers Harry. I had looked at the Nilfisk Aero, and the cheaper Multi II 22T (the only difference I notice other than the capacity is that the PTTO on the cheaper one is restricted to 1100W). Could I ask, what benefot this might have over, for example, the previously mentioned Wickes machine?
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I've just built myself a small workshop, and for health (and sanity!) reasons have started to investigate what to do about dust.
At the moment, I've only got a few small tools - a circular saw and track saw, belt and random orbital sander (about to add a spindle sander), mitre saw and palm router. I'll soon be adding a larger router mounted in a bench, and a table saw, most likely the Dewalt 7485.
I understand that I should be looking at a hplv type "shop vac" for use with the saws and sanders - I just wondered if anyone could offer any recommendations? Budget will not stretch to anything like the Festool midi - looking at something sub £200 and potentially adding a cyclone to it. I would like a tool socket on the vacuum, and preferably something not too noisy. I've found a couple of reasonably priced options such as the Dewalt DXV23PTA, Trend T33a (review suggest this ones extremely noisy!) and a really cheap option in the Titan TTB776VAC. Only one of these (the Trend) is M class, but I'm not sure if it's the machines themselves that get rated as M class, or if this is down to the filters that go in them? I did come across a Festool CT15E for £250 - is this any better than other options, or is it more expensive just because its Festool? I have noticed many people praising Nilfisk machines - the Attix 30-01 looks to be powerful, pretty quiet and with power tool take off, but again doesn't appear to be class M rated.
Could anyone offer advice? Am I overthinking this and most machines in this price range are likely to give me more or less the same dust protection?
I use an NV750 (but a cheaper Henry will do a decent enough job too). Numatic NV750 Workshop Vacuum Extractor - 230V | Axminster Tools It isn't M class but has a decent enough suction for my needs, which are not commercial.
I have a remote control on/off DEWENWILS Remote Controlled Plugs, 13A/3120W Heavy Duty Wireless Light Switch, 30m/100ft Long Range, Programmable, CE and RoHS Listed, 2 Pack Sockets and 1 Remote : Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools
I run everything through a cyclone system DUST COMMANDER - Cyclone Filter Element/Dust Collector : Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools with a large air tight cabinet that I built myself from MDF.
I also have a couple of dust hubs, How to make the workshop Dust Hub - YouTube . One of them is the actual unit that Peter demonstrates in his video and another is one that I made myself (shown below)
These allow me to simultaneously fit tools requiring different exhaust port diameters without cause to connect and disconnect them. I also have a few Festool flexible dust pipes which link to various tools.
The whole thing is ducted using 63mm Dust Extraction Kit | Axminster Tools
I'll be first to admit that this HPLV rig is larger than your budget but you can start small and build the system gradually.
Yes I saw that today although I tend not to use it with my table saw as I use a 'proper' dust extractor with that. I use the shop vac and auto switch with my drill press, sander and routers.I like how the ebay ad states don't use this with a table saw as one german gentleman found out
Ian - I must admit, this type of setup looks very tempting! Does all of this ducting connect to the Numatic and have enough power?? I'm wondering if I'd be able to do something like with one of these, or the Rutlands extractor as mentioned by a few people here. I only plan to have 1 tool with a larger port (table saw) - would it be feasible to cobble together some ducting and connectors so that this one machine could be permanently attached to the table saw, and also give me a couple of hoses to attach to other hand tools?
If you intend to Make a Fine-Dust Air Filter for your shop - maybe you could utilise a pair of these =I would definitely suggest a cyclone separator, they are very cheap and save tons of vac bags.
For the shop vac itself it doesn't matter too much as long as it works well.
However, a lot of the cheap ones have a poorly designed method of bag fitment and a huge amount of internal space is taken up by the filters making the capacity very small. Also often poorly designed switches and wheels, short hoses etc. which don't sound like much but will annoy you daily.
The very cheap B and Q or Lidl type ones will be noisy and you may struggle to get parts or bags later on as they change often.
Nilfisk are good, Numatic are good, the Bosch/Metabo/3M gas vacs are great as are the Festool ones.
A power takeoff is essential too.
Don't forget some kind of air filter for the light dust in the air, it makes a big difference. Cheap enough to buy or make.
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