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Hi Can anyone explain to me all the hipe over Husane Bolt, (The fastest man on earth, Greatest sportsman ever) these are just a couple of ways i have heard him described.
Ok what has he done, he has ran as fast as he can for a few seconds, yes fast faster than the other competitors in the races but not by much, but has he had to find the courage commitment strength and physical staminer of many of the other competitors in other disciplines regardless of what nation they are from.

Perhaps this is the reason why when most athletes take early nights and rest between events, Bolt can be out in night clubs until the early hours of the morning, I am not knocking his ability at what he does he is for sure very good at it but he is only a short distance sprinter at the end of the day.

I just can't help wondering how some of the other athletes who have perhaps, won a triathlon for example, must feel when Bolt is put across as this all conquering hero and descibed in this way.

Just my own personal take on things

Berns
 
inaspin":1x8tof36 said:
I just can't help wondering how some of the other athletes who have perhaps, won a triathlon for example, must feel when Bolt is put across as this all conquering hero and descibed in this way.
Berns
I agree with you - I don't think Usain Bolt's 10 or 20 seconds of effort compare with that required by a great many other competitors in different disciplines. Media mania I guess. :wink:
 
RogerP":3uak6dj1 said:
inaspin":3uak6dj1 said:
I just can't help wondering how some of the other athletes who have perhaps, won a triathlon for example, must feel when Bolt is put across as this all conquering hero and descibed in this way.
Berns
I agree with you - I don't think Usain Bolt's 10 or 20 seconds of effort compare with that required by a great many other competitors in different disciplines. Media mania I guess. :wink:

You might as well say that the shot put "only" takes a fraction of a second.

Bolt is rightly viewed as extraordinary because of his margin of victory, over both present day competitors, and indeed every competitor in history.

BugBear
 
bugbear":i76vbera said:
RogerP":i76vbera said:
inaspin":i76vbera said:
I just can't help wondering how some of the other athletes who have perhaps, won a triathlon for example, must feel when Bolt is put across as this all conquering hero and descibed in this way.
Berns
I agree with you - I don't think Usain Bolt's 10 or 20 seconds of effort compare with that required by a great many other competitors in different disciplines. Media mania I guess. :wink:
You might as well say that the shot put "only" takes a fraction of a second.
BugBear
... I agree, same applies :)
 
RogerP":2jd4x8yq said:
bugbear":2jd4x8yq said:
RogerP":2jd4x8yq said:
I don't think Usain Bolt's 10 or 20 seconds of effort compare with that required by a great many other competitors in different disciplines. Media mania I guess. :wink:
You might as well say that the shot put "only" takes a fraction of a second.
BugBear
... I agree, same applies :)

Geoff Capes will be heartbroken...

BugBear
 
Contrary to my early feelings about the games, I have thoroughly enjoyed watching a lot of the Olympic competitions but I get annoyed when I hear the c**p spoken by some of the commentators.

When talking about the "only" fourth place position of Dai Green in the 400m hurdles, he said something like "He must be disappointed after all the sacrifices he has made."

Can somebody elucidate? What sacrifices? He chooses not to do a productive day's work but chooses whether to do a bit of running, or jumping or weighlifting and then eats some expensive, tasty, healthy, protein rich food, all subsidised by those of us who work for a living.
What would happen to this country if we all decided to be full time athletes?

Rant over..........for now.
 
whiskywill":2jwifbx2 said:
Contrary to my early feelings about the games, I have thoroughly enjoyed watching a lot of the Olympic competitions but I get annoyed when I hear the c**p spoken by some of the commentators.

When talking about the "only" fourth place position of Dai Green in the 400m hurdles, he said something like "He must be disappointed after all the sacrifices he has made."

Can somebody elucidate? What sacrifices?

Pain. injury, being away from his family spring to mind.

BugBear
 
bugbear":1ou2gtmh said:
whiskywill":1ou2gtmh said:
Contrary to my early feelings about the games, I have thoroughly enjoyed watching a lot of the Olympic competitions but I get annoyed when I hear the c**p spoken by some of the commentators.

When talking about the "only" fourth place position of Dai Green in the 400m hurdles, he said something like "He must be disappointed after all the sacrifices he has made."

Can somebody elucidate? What sacrifices?

Pain. injury, being away from his family spring to mind.

BugBear

Sacrifice has become to mean the foregoing of something. Any pain or injury is caused by his choice to participate and is not a sacrifice. Most working people spend a considerable amount of time away from their families in carrying out their jobs. Do specialist training camps take up any more time than a 9 to 5 worker spends away from his family in a year? Probably not. They're just more concentrated.
 
whiskywill":12r48v2q said:
Sacrifice has become to mean the foregoing of something. Any pain or injury is caused by his choice to participate and is not a sacrifice. Most working people spend a considerable amount of time away from their families in carrying out their jobs. Do specialist training camps take up any more time than a 9 to 5 worker spends away from his family in a year? Probably not. They're just more concentrated.

I'll take a shot your etymological point: pain involves the sacrifice of comfort, injury involves the sacrifice of health.

And most Christians believe(*) that choosing to make a sacrifice doesn't stop it being a sacrifice.

BugBear
 
Bolt is rightly viewed as extraordinary because of his margin of victory, over both present day competitors, and indeed every competitor in history.

BugBear[/quote]
I agree and quite rightly so in his field he is without a doubt at the top of his game, however i still think that it must be very demoralizing for other athletes who do have to train far harder and experiance much more pain on a regular basis are put as second best.

He may be able to run at 28 miles an hour for 20 seconds but i seriously doubt that he could even finish a triathalon let alone win one, or 1500 or 2000 meters come to that. I hate injustice of any sort and i just think a little less needs to be made of him, and a little more made of other commpettiters and there achievements.

Berns
 
inaspin":5xs07hfr said:
Bolt is rightly viewed as extraordinary because of his margin of victory, over both present day competitors, and indeed every competitor in history.

BugBear
I agree and quite rightly so in his field he is without a doubt at the top of his game, however i still think that it must be very demoralizing for other athletes who do have to train far harder and experiance much more pain on a regular basis are put as second best.

He may be able to run at 28 miles an hour for 20 seconds but i seriously doubt that he could even finish a triathalon let alone win one, or 1500 or 2000 meters come to that. I hate injustice of any sort and i just think a little less needs to be made of him, and a little more made of other commpettiters and there achievements.

Berns[/quote]
Let's see him try the TdF :)
 
whiskywill":363rjyvv said:
...
Can somebody elucidate? What sacrifices? He chooses not to do a productive day's work but chooses whether to do a bit of running, or jumping or weighlifting and then eats some expensive, tasty, healthy, protein rich food, all subsidised by those of us who work for a living.
......
Rant over..........for now.

Jeepers. There are some narrow-minded viewpoints out there but this really takes the biscuit.

Have you bothered to actually look at the training regime that these guys and girls undertake? Seven days a week/ maybe up at 5am to start training BEFORE they go and do their day job. That takes dedication...day in...day out. Much of it is funded by their sponsors or by themselves in the early days of their athletic careers.
 
I am afraid some folk just don't have any idea what is involved to become a top elite sports person.
 
inaspin":m9vy5k13 said:
Hi Can anyone explain to me all the hipe over Husane Bolt, (The fastest man on earth, Greatest sportsman ever) these are just a couple of ways i have heard him described.
Ok what has he done, he has ran as fast as he can for a few seconds, yes fast faster than the other competitors in the races but not by much, but has he had to find the courage commitment strength and physical staminer of many of the other competitors in other disciplines regardless of what nation they are from.

Perhaps this is the reason why when most athletes take early nights and rest between events, Bolt can be out in night clubs until the early hours of the morning, I am not knocking his ability at what he does he is for sure very good at it but he is only a short distance sprinter at the end of the day.

I just can't help wondering how some of the other athletes who have perhaps, won a triathlon for example, must feel when Bolt is put across as this all conquering hero and descibed in this way.

Just my own personal take on things

Berns


Perhaps one reason there is hipe over Bolt is mankinds obsession with speed, fastest plane, car, boat, animal etc.
 
RogerS":x6oqucky said:
whiskywill":x6oqucky said:
...
Can somebody elucidate? What sacrifices? He chooses not to do a productive day's work but chooses whether to do a bit of running, or jumping or weighlifting and then eats some expensive, tasty, healthy, protein rich food, all subsidised by those of us who work for a living.
......
Rant over..........for now.

Jeepers. There are some narrow-minded viewpoints out there but this really takes the biscuit.

Have you bothered to actually look at the training regime that these guys and girls undertake? Seven days a week/ maybe up at 5am to start training BEFORE they go and do their day job. That takes dedication...day in...day out. Much of it is funded by their sponsors or by themselves in the early days of their athletic careers.
+1...and then some - Rob
 
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