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AES
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Your take on the history of that period Triton does NOT accord with the actuality. Have you never heard of the BEF ("British Expeditionary Force"). That was Brits who were sent to France (by the UK Govt) specifically to help the French (at the time the largest army in the world, bigger even than Germany by head count) in protecting France, especially Paris.
AES
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My Goodness Bm101. There aren't arf some people here who don't know their modern history! The bad weather in the English Channel came AFTER the BoB had been fought (and won)! There WAS a short delay after Dunkirk (which without double-checking, was I think in May 1940) but the BoB started in June 1940 (mainly with attacks on our shipping in the Channel), and reached it's height in August and September of 1940!
As said BEFORE the start of winter. It's generally acknowledged that if Hitler/Goering hadn't switched their attention form the RAF airfields and other infrastructure such as HCL and H (radar) to concentrate instead on bombing London, that the Nazis WOULD have succeeded in clearing the RAF from the air, thus gaining air superiority and allowing the cross channel invasion to begin. It would then have been up to the Royal Navy to save us, IF their ships could have survived long enough in an environment where the enemy had gained air superiority
Edit for P.S. Just for clarity, the BoB "Day" that we remember now is in September, as Sept 1940 is the period in which the BoB reached it's heights. Again "before Winta come"!
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BEF. It does ring a bell...
Oh yeah, that was the jolly jaunt my Grandfather was in.
51st Highland division, Corporal McCafferty Transportation. He was in the rear guard action at Dunkirk.
He didnt make it out with the initial evacuation, as in after the last big boat had left, but a day later I think(Family details are a little sketchy.
He and a small party spent the day avoiding Nazi patrols before being picked up by a Belgium fishing boat. I've always meant to see if I could access his war diary, but Mum's old(80) and can't remember all the details we need to get info for it.
I didnt say we abandoned the French. There was a mix up in that the British were intent on their evac, thinking the french were responsible for their own evac.
The point of fact -
" The reason few French warships were available at Dunkirk was because of an agreement between Royal Navy and French Navy commanders concerning theatres of responsibility; this arrangement had, thus, resulted in much of the French fleet being stationed in the Mediterranean. Now, the Royal Navy would have to shoulder the responsibility for evacuating the French, as well as the BEF, from Dunkirk
Despite British willingness to help their French allies, the most undiplomatic figure of the Anglo-French military and naval coalition was none other than the commander of the BEF, Field Marshal Lord Gort, whose scathing remarks and dismissiveness of the French martial ability throughout the Battle of France possibly helped drive a wedge between the Allies.
When Gort first learned of the arrangements for the French at his headquarters at La Panne on 29 May, he immediately telegraphed the Chief of the Imperial General Staff, Field Marshal Sir John Dill, to ask for clarification on whether French troops were to be evacuated alongside British troops in equal numbers. Gort reminded Dill that the safety of the BEF was his primary consideration: ‘every Frenchman embarked is at cost of one Englishman "
Oh yeah, that was the jolly jaunt my Grandfather was in.
51st Highland division, Corporal McCafferty Transportation. He was in the rear guard action at Dunkirk.
He didnt make it out with the initial evacuation, as in after the last big boat had left, but a day later I think(Family details are a little sketchy.
He and a small party spent the day avoiding Nazi patrols before being picked up by a Belgium fishing boat. I've always meant to see if I could access his war diary, but Mum's old(80) and can't remember all the details we need to get info for it.
I didnt say we abandoned the French. There was a mix up in that the British were intent on their evac, thinking the french were responsible for their own evac.
The point of fact -
" The reason few French warships were available at Dunkirk was because of an agreement between Royal Navy and French Navy commanders concerning theatres of responsibility; this arrangement had, thus, resulted in much of the French fleet being stationed in the Mediterranean. Now, the Royal Navy would have to shoulder the responsibility for evacuating the French, as well as the BEF, from Dunkirk
Despite British willingness to help their French allies, the most undiplomatic figure of the Anglo-French military and naval coalition was none other than the commander of the BEF, Field Marshal Lord Gort, whose scathing remarks and dismissiveness of the French martial ability throughout the Battle of France possibly helped drive a wedge between the Allies.
When Gort first learned of the arrangements for the French at his headquarters at La Panne on 29 May, he immediately telegraphed the Chief of the Imperial General Staff, Field Marshal Sir John Dill, to ask for clarification on whether French troops were to be evacuated alongside British troops in equal numbers. Gort reminded Dill that the safety of the BEF was his primary consideration: ‘every Frenchman embarked is at cost of one Englishman "
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AES
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No problem there for me Bm101. And yes, you're right about "same old, same old". (Twas ever thus).
Too funny... You're the one acting like a big baby. I was just politely stating a different point of view. You're the one trying to cancel my point of view by shouting me down - exactly what the Woke people you're so upset about do.
I'm far from a millenial by the way
AES
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BEF. It does ring a bell...
Oh yeah, that was the jolly jaunt my Grandfather was in.
51st Highland division, Corporal McCafferty Transportation. He was in the rear guard action at Dunkirk.
He didnt make it out with the initial evacuation, as in after the last big boat had left, but a day later I think(Family details are a little sketchy.
He and a small party spent the day avoiding Nazi patrols before being picked up by a Belgium fishing boat. I've always meant to see if I could access his war diary, but Mum's old(80) and can't remember all the details we need to get info for it.
I didnt say we abandoned the French. There was a mix up in that the British were intent on their evac, thinking the french were responsible for their own evac.
The point of fact -
" The reason few French warships were available at Dunkirk was because of an agreement between Royal Navy and French Navy commanders concerning theatres of responsibility; this arrangement had, thus, resulted in much of the French fleet being stationed in the Mediterranean. Now, the Royal Navy would have to shoulder the responsibility for evacuating the French, as well as the BEF, from Dunkirk
Despite British willingness to help their French allies, the most undiplomatic figure of the Anglo-French military and naval coalition was none other than the commander of the BEF, Field Marshal Lord Gort, whose scathing remarks and dismissiveness of the French martial ability throughout the Battle of France possibly helped drive a wedge between the Allies.
When Gort first learned of the arrangements for the French at his headquarters at La Panne on 29 May, he immediately telegraphed the Chief of the Imperial General Staff, Field Marshal Sir John Dill, to ask for clarification on whether French troops were to be evacuated alongside British troops in equal numbers. Gort reminded Dill that the safety of the BEF was his primary consideration: ‘every Frenchman embarked is at cost of one Englishman "
I retract my earlier comment Triton. It seems you do know that part of history. And BTW, I agree 100%, Lord Gort was, apparently "a typical Brit" (Army Brit anyway)!.
SamG340
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No I'M guilty! (or should that be Spartacus?)
SamG340
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For me, as long as you've got a good sharp chisel you're doing OK
Phill05
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Come on chaps let put the past behind us for a while before this get changed to the History channel and get back into jokes.
Question: how many bright spark's does it take to light a light bulb?
Question: how many bright spark's does it take to light a light bulb?
SamG340
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I don't know Phil how many ?
Here we go againIt's alright saying all that AES you Swiss wouldn't even take a side !
Pedronicus where on earth do you think you are, Anyone would think this was a joke thread (I used to)
Talking about kerryman jokes; an Englishman, Scotsman, and an Irishman were crossing the Outback when the car broke down, so they decide to hoof it to the nearest town. It is a bit hot, so the Englishman takes the only bottle of water. The Scostman takes the only hat. The Irishman takes the car door.
"What are you doing with that?" asks the Englishman.
"Well, when it gets too hot, I'll roll down the window and let in some fresh air"
"What are you doing with that?" asks the Englishman.
"Well, when it gets too hot, I'll roll down the window and let in some fresh air"
PhilTilson
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Oh, come on guys! Just as I thought we had finally got back to a 'joke thread' it turns all political and bleeding-heart again. By definition, jokes are nearly always at the expense of somebody or other's limitations or peculiarities. If you find racism, sexism, nationalism or any other -ism in humour unacceptable, then spare yourself the angst and don't read the thread! And if somebody DOES whinge and complain, don't fuel the argument by remonstrating with him or her - just ignore them!
Never heard it called a chisel before must be a Welsh thing lol
SamG340
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It's a tool we use for restraining sheeps
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