devonwoody
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I refuse to use paypal after being scammed back in the summer. Is there a way to get ebay purchases to accept visa direct to seller?
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Eric The Viking
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I don't think so. Ebay/paypal changed it some years back to require you to use paypal.
PayPal aren't my pals either. Some years ago, I lost over £200 in a scam that they wouldn't even correspond about.
They used to use very carefully worded Ts&Cs so that their operations fell outside banking law - I don't know if they still do. It meant you had no redress other than to sue them, but then they moved offshore so it was impossible for all practical purposes.
They used to share at least one director with RBoS, and I think RBoS put quite a lot of money in at the beginning.
I don't like them and avoid using them if at all possible. When you consider the whole eBay process end-to-end, it's a very expensive way to sell things. The only balancing factor is that it does let you advertise to niche markets globally, which otherwise would be difficult. Even then, there are better alternatives. For broadcast electronics I use a specialist list with an escrow service. They're very good, have humans doing the support and are significantly cheaper than eBay overall.
I think you're stuck with PP for many purchases. When people list things on eBay, they can elect to accept other forms of payment, but they are _required_ to accept PayPal now, as a condition of listing something.
I buy from eBay. I pay with PP as I have little choice, but it's responsible for increasing costs, and I think very hard before selling that way. I've noticed in the last two years, that anything commercially listed on eBay (electronic components, for example) is almost always cheaper if bought another way. That's most probably the fees and PP charges.
For selling, there are usually other, better choices, for example here or the small ads in the local paper (now on-line, too).
E.
PayPal aren't my pals either. Some years ago, I lost over £200 in a scam that they wouldn't even correspond about.
They used to use very carefully worded Ts&Cs so that their operations fell outside banking law - I don't know if they still do. It meant you had no redress other than to sue them, but then they moved offshore so it was impossible for all practical purposes.
They used to share at least one director with RBoS, and I think RBoS put quite a lot of money in at the beginning.
I don't like them and avoid using them if at all possible. When you consider the whole eBay process end-to-end, it's a very expensive way to sell things. The only balancing factor is that it does let you advertise to niche markets globally, which otherwise would be difficult. Even then, there are better alternatives. For broadcast electronics I use a specialist list with an escrow service. They're very good, have humans doing the support and are significantly cheaper than eBay overall.
I think you're stuck with PP for many purchases. When people list things on eBay, they can elect to accept other forms of payment, but they are _required_ to accept PayPal now, as a condition of listing something.
I buy from eBay. I pay with PP as I have little choice, but it's responsible for increasing costs, and I think very hard before selling that way. I've noticed in the last two years, that anything commercially listed on eBay (electronic components, for example) is almost always cheaper if bought another way. That's most probably the fees and PP charges.
For selling, there are usually other, better choices, for example here or the small ads in the local paper (now on-line, too).
E.
Baldhead
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DW can you contact the seller and ask if they will accept a cheque? I have done this in the past, it's a lot slower as they will want to wait until the cheque clears, but it means no one gets ripped off with PayPal fees.
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devonwoody
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I was wanting to purchase a flight simulator game add on and the ebay price was a tenner cheaper than amazon. Tried to contact the seller direct gamezone or something but it only took me back to ebay.
My guess is that anyone that can accept Visa or Mastercard payments would be registered on there as a business seller so at the bottom of their listings are their contact details. Ebay try their best to cover them up but they are there.
You could contact the seller via their email address and ask if they will accept cards. If you contact them direct they may accept a cheque or bank transfer but that way there is a small risk if something goes wrong as you would not be covered as you would with a credit card.
Cheers
Dave
You could contact the seller via their email address and ask if they will accept cards. If you contact them direct they may accept a cheque or bank transfer but that way there is a small risk if something goes wrong as you would not be covered as you would with a credit card.
Cheers
Dave
I cant remember, what was your issue with Paypal?
The majority of dis-likers are the traders because it gives the buyers so much protection, normally. I use Paypal for my little enterprise. The main reason for his is so that I never have any credit numbers to fall into the wrong hands. As a buyer, I would far rather that Paypal stored them than they went to a place of unknown security.
Paypal should, as a buyer cover you for:
items not received
items received damaged
items not as described (was this your issue???)
fake goods (you may have to get an expert to verify this, and I am not sure at who's cost)
etc.
You will always have the protection of the Sale of Goods Act, and Distance Selling Regs if they are applicable. I think that Paypal will back these up, so if you change your mind...
Personally, I would hug and make up with Paypal, and double check the small print re returns policies etc before buying. It will probably cost you more in the long run avoiding it- having to pay a bit more from Amazon, a few stamps for mailing cheques etc.
Just my thoughts.
The majority of dis-likers are the traders because it gives the buyers so much protection, normally. I use Paypal for my little enterprise. The main reason for his is so that I never have any credit numbers to fall into the wrong hands. As a buyer, I would far rather that Paypal stored them than they went to a place of unknown security.
Paypal should, as a buyer cover you for:
items not received
items received damaged
items not as described (was this your issue???)
fake goods (you may have to get an expert to verify this, and I am not sure at who's cost)
etc.
You will always have the protection of the Sale of Goods Act, and Distance Selling Regs if they are applicable. I think that Paypal will back these up, so if you change your mind...
Personally, I would hug and make up with Paypal, and double check the small print re returns policies etc before buying. It will probably cost you more in the long run avoiding it- having to pay a bit more from Amazon, a few stamps for mailing cheques etc.
Just my thoughts.
devonwoody
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After having my credit card fraudently used (and a close neighbour the same day)when I made the last paypal transaction, I don't want to know.
Once bitten twice shy, I was always taught as a youngster.
Once bitten twice shy, I was always taught as a youngster.
Jacob
What goes around comes around.
I'd go for Paypal too especially if you are the buyer. It's very efficient and seems to be very safe with plenty of protection from dodgy sellers.
mseries
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It's up to the seller what they accept. I don't accept cheques anymore, far too much hassle to bank them. You should contact the seller through eBay to ask then if they'll accept anything else. If not, spend your money elsewhere, their loss.devonwoody":249lu8lg said:
If I sell anything that has to go by courier I won't accept Paypal.
Mate of mine got ripped when he sent an large item via courier, seller complained to Paypal, Paypal as usual backed the buyer, they got the money back, & he got nothing, no returns, nowt.
I prefer pickup, & cash when the buyer see's the item, & is happy, if they want it sent via courier it's not a problem, (after I point out what's stated in the listing) but it doesn't leave until funds are cleared by BACS.
I know I'm not the only seller who thinks this way, I've a 100% record, & will stand by what I sell, but I won't be ripped off.
SS.
Mate of mine got ripped when he sent an large item via courier, seller complained to Paypal, Paypal as usual backed the buyer, they got the money back, & he got nothing, no returns, nowt.
I prefer pickup, & cash when the buyer see's the item, & is happy, if they want it sent via courier it's not a problem, (after I point out what's stated in the listing) but it doesn't leave until funds are cleared by BACS.
I know I'm not the only seller who thinks this way, I've a 100% record, & will stand by what I sell, but I won't be ripped off.
SS.
RogerP
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The other side of the coin - in 13 years using eBay I've had over 3000 transactions (buying and selling) and no problems that weren't resolved amicably and 100% positive feedback.
mind_the_goat
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if you click the 'ask the seller a question' button you can offer to pay by some other means, direct transfer into their bank account is one way. BUT you do loose any protection as a buyer that paypal offer. So if you did that and you didn't get the item you would struggle to get it resolved. Ebay will not share the sellers email address with you.
RogerS
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dw....I remember your 'scam' but that wasn't down to PayPal IIRC.
RogerP
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I don't understand what you mean. If you are the buyer you always get the seller's address.mind_the_goat":3vi9skpk said:
devonwoody
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RogerS":2w0f6mln said:
But it was when I used pay pal?
RogerS
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Just looked again at that thread. Is the card one that you only use for Paypal? If so then fair cop. But if you use the card elsewhere then how do you know it wasn't a scam from one of the other transactions?
mind_the_goat
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RogerP":28ljz1ow said:
Actually maybe that's not true, last purchase I made I got a note from the vendor in my inbox, with his own email address in the 'from' box, as well as the same note via the ebay interface.
I work with computers all day, you can't expect me to understand them during my leisure time as well
RogerP
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Did you not get a "Confirmation of your order ...." email directly from eBay? This contains all the information of the transaction, including the seller's name and address. You should get one every time you buy anything through eBay.mind_the_goat":fcnwedzv said:RogerP":fcnwedzv said:
Actually maybe that's not true, last purchase I made I got a note from the vendor in my inbox, with his own email address in the 'from' box, as well as the same note via the ebay interface.
I work with computers all day, you can't expect me to understand them during my leisure time as well
