Change a keyless chuck on a cordless drill

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Hi,
I have been given a lovely Bosch cordless drill from my father in law but cannot use it thanks to having only use of one hand :oops: and want to change the chuck to one with a key (i can tighten them using one hand by clamping it to a bench) is it a easy mod to do as the drill is virtually brand new in its case and better than my old B/D one.
How do you remove the chucks? and also can you recommend a decent replacement chuck for it? the drill is a GSR-18
Cheers
Brian
 
If this link is the right one,--
The exploded drawing shows a screw inside the chuck and the chuck will then unscrew from the shaft.
You will need to identify the size of the shaft and the thread, Perhaps some one could do this for you?
then go on line and and hopefully find the correct sized keyed chuck you need.
HTH Regards Rodders

http://www.powertoolspares.com/tool/bos ... 00/spares/
 
Just to add to what Rod has told you, I think you will find that the screw that secures the chuck is a left hand thread and therefore undoes clockwise.
 
Richard S":37d09nac said:
Just to add to what Rod has told you, I think you will find that the screw that secures the chuck is a left hand thread and therefore undoes clockwise.

Thanks for the excellent observation by Richard S, The screw is listed as "Part number 107, m6x30 panhead screw"
It's not described as a l/h thread and, on zooming the diagram, the thread is not drawn as L/H Thread either., But it is a Torque head 6 x 30 screw.
Richard may well be right,The screw is left hand threaded, But I'm not 100% convinced it's left handed,
It will be the opposite direction to the shaft thread the chuck fits on, I think we would agree on.
Regards Rodders
 
Just a bit of out of the box thinking here Brian , but have you thought of using a strap wrench on the keyless chuck. The motor resistance by itself might give enough tension that you might manage it like that clamped to the bench. Contrary-wise , you might clamp the lower chuck portion (say with mole grips and pads ) and tighten the keyless bit with your good hand. I find that mine doesn't need all that much force to come to a fair grip on my bits. OR you could try hex shafted bits which require less force to get a good lock on them. Just a couple of thoughts, maybe one or another method might help.
 
Ok Brian,

I am thinking that you can't use the trigger and the motor to tighten up your chuck.

I have a DeWalt drill/driver and on that model I can tighten the chuck without using the trigger.

I know I have the other hand in which to hold the drill, but I wondered; if you had some way of holding the drill, couldn't you also twist the chuck up tight that way? I don't know the severity of your disability, but is it possible to hold the drill in your armpit while you tighten the chuck?

My apologies if I have things all cock-eyed.

Hope you find a solution.

Cheers
 
I sympathise, a lot.

Arthritis means I struggle with cordless chucks sometimes. I have a right-angled drill (Power-Plus: cheap but looks like a DeWalt), and I sometimes have to jam the chuck against it's plastic casing with a wedge as there is no other easy way to stop the back going round. It only gets occasional use, usually DIY, but it's invaluable when I do need it.

I suspect your problem is a bit worse than just removing the chuck of yours.

To start with, it is most likely a left-hand thread, meaning the screw in the bottom of the chuck undoes clockwise. If that screw has a cross-head, it is almost certainly a Phillips profile - don't try a Pozidrive screwdriver as it will almost certainly chew up the head. You need a good quality, long reach Phillips of the correct size (a brand new one would be safest) - those screws are designed to be done up on a production line to a specific torque setting and never undone again. Better tools have Torx and similar screws instead, so you may be in luck.

Then there's finding a replacement chuck - that may be tricky as the keyed variety aren't that popular nowadays for smaller battery power tools. If you can, you're fine, but the manufacturers usually don't intend them to be used in reverse - getting one with the screw hole might be tricky.

And is the thread on the chuck male or female, and what pitch is it? That may not be clear until you have removed it. One thing to consider is that 'one way' chucks (no retaining screw) aren't so good for screwdriving - they come undone when you take screws out. It's not always the case, but it's really annoying if it happens.

But all is not lost, and I'd make a couple of suggestions that might help: First off, you might not have the problem you think you do.

My little 10.8v Bosch drill has a really good clutch, which I think is operated by an electromagnet: It locks the shaft of the drill so that you can open or close the chuck against a rigid shaft. When you squeeze the trigger it unlocks first, then the motor power comes on -- it's so slick you don't really notice. OK, One-handed operation isn't wonderful (grab drill between knees, mutter a bit, etc.), but it's practical.

I've had mine for about five years, and really used it (OK, DIY, but lots). It's still going just fine. If yours is a new drill, and it doesn't work that way, would the supplier let you swap it for one of those models? If you can get one, a simple, rectangular wooden box with shoulders at the bottom for clamps for the bench (or to put one foot on, for DIY) would work: Drop the drill in, chuck uppermost: the box stops it rotating, whilst you undo the chuck with ease.

The other possibility is to contact a Bosch main agent (or the importer), and ask if they can help you. If it's a 'blue' drill it has a warranty that covers contractor usage, and spares will be available. There might be exactly the chuck you need for another Bosch model that they could supply you.

Finally, the keyless sort with a ring at the back (the back cover, really) usually has a plastic cover, moulded into grips. If you can remove the chuck, can you get someone to machine parallel flats in the plastic of the back ring - either slots, or 'rebates' on the back shoulder of the chuck -- which would fit a "C" spanner, probably home made? I could see a wooden frame to hold the drill, chuck uppermost, with a C-spanner, mounted horizontally and sticking out sideways, at the top of it. Clamp the frame to the bench (or put a foot on it if doing DIY) slide the chuck onto the spanner and it can't rotate. Your good hand is free to undo it.

If the above doesn't make sense I'll try to do a drawing. But I wouldn't modify anything unless you're sure you can get a replacement chuck, and do the machining to that so you don't damage the original. Those chucks are designed so they don't need a lot of force to do up tightly, so you shouldn't chew up anythign if the spanner can fit it snugly. You could alternatively mount a strap wrench, as suggested, but it would be slightly more fiddly to use.

Just a few thoughts.

E.
 
Having been without a right hand for a few weeks (fortunately, intended and temporary) can sympathise with the OP. But as others have suggested, it's surprising how much can be gripped in armpit or between knees (sorry if that is grandmothers and eggs!). Alternatively, would it be worth rigging up a foot operated gripping device? Watched a leatherworker the other day, and she had a very neat device made from two lengths of ply sprung apart just far enough for easy insertion of the leather, with a pedal pulling a string from one jaw through the other to pull them tovether.

The other thought is one of the disability charities - a couple of decades ago, SWMBO was involved with Chaley Heritage workshops (think that was the spelling) who did a lot of adaptations of stuff for people with limited movement etc.. They might have ideas.
 
Just thinking a spring lock bit holder might just do the job for you with out changing the chuck, you only need one hand to change any bit or drill. The drills go up to 6m/m with a hex base, it may even be cheaper?
 
+1 for Billy's bit holder. Have a look at the Trend Snappy range - all designed to fit a 1/4" hex holder.

Alternatively - roughly where are you in Galloway Claymore? I owned a tool shop and changed chucks for people regularly. Not always easy and sometimes need to be cut off but I'd happily do it for you.

The chuck retaining screw will definitely be left hand thread, by the way.

Cheers

Paul
 
How about making a large nutcracker type 'thing' of a size that will grip one end of the chuck. Mount it in convenient place on the bench where it can be operated by your elbow maybe.

Just a thought and probably not explained well.
 
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