Brass record no4, how much?

[tobytools]

Saw this and can't believe someone would pay that much or this.
The casting looks ruff, bashed up and bent adjuster, list goes on.
Is nice tho

I believe this to be a, quick the boss isn't looking plane. Or the like.
Who know about brass versions as I've now seen a few, am I missing out?

http://bit.ly/1fcQiEN
Thanks

TT

 

[MMUK]

I believe the first brass planes were intended for coal mine carpenters as brass is less likely to spark than iron or steel. Avoiding a spark was pretty essential down the pit in the old days.

 

[marcros]

I had always assumed that brass ones were a pattern makers copy of an iron one. Were some manufactured commercially that way?

 

[tobytools]

I had always assumed that brass ones were a pattern makers copy of an iron one. Were some manufactured commercially that way?

I'm not to sure, I've seen stanley, pasty, record, marples and various other in brass so I would think just made by special order, or..
A guy from a guy who could do it cheap on the hush hush. We will never know.

I do have a think with brass planes. They look stunning and don't rush
Perfect

But that price for a no4... Crazy
TT

 

[MMUK]

It comparable to the price of a brand new QuiangSheng

 

[tobytools]

It comparable to the price of a brand new QuiangSheng

I know what you mean, obviously brought by a collector to showcase with the rest of his/her brass tools, I'm not a fan of no4 planes tbh

Nice rosewood tho
TT

 

[Sheffield Tony]

I had always assumed that brass ones were a pattern makers copy of an iron one. Were some manufactured commercially that way?

+1. I would have assumed that somebody dropped it, cracked the original iron body, and used it as a pattern for an easier to cast brass replacement. If so, it may be very slightly undersized.

But I'm willingly to be proved wrong.

Edited to add - do my eyes deceive me, or is that marking in the casting a faithful reproduction of the original welded and ground down repair to a crack across the mouth ?

 

[tobytools]

I had always assumed that brass ones were a pattern makers copy of an iron one. Were some manufactured commercially that way?

+1. I would have assumed that somebody dropped it, cracked the original iron body, and used it as a pattern for an easier to cast brass replacement. If so, it may be very slightly undersized.

But I'm willingly to be proved wrong.

Edited to add - do my eyes deceive me, or is that marking in the casting a faithful reproduction of the original welded and ground down repair to a crack across the mouth ?

I agree that it may be a casting form an original record and your right it would b smaller from shrinkage. Vann had a router that is brass as is slightly smaller than it's original.

The mark on the side could very well be the damage cast.
Thanks for that Tony

Cheers
TT

 

[Sheffield Tony]

I think that the fact that brass versions of a variety of manufacturers' planes are occasionally found suggests to me that it is a repair. And maybe not by a patternmaker - possibly just a school metalwork shop in the not so distant past. I have been shown brass planes by old boys that they made at school, though usually shoulder planes. Plenty of scrap brass and dropped planes to hand ...

I hope the person who bought this isn't listening ...

 

[Vann]

Vann has a router that is brass as is slightly smaller than it's original.

Cheers, Vann.

 

[tobytools]

Speak of the devil.

If the person who brought that record plane some how finds this link then I apologise if it seems I'm taking the p**s

Brass is prettier than steel but I prefer wood

TT

 

[TobyC]

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