Anybody help? Bandsaw tyres.

[SammyQ]

Arternoon Peeps. I am trying to bring an old bandsaw back from the dead. First order of business: New rubber/urethane tyres. Diameter of cast iron wheel: 13⅝", circumference 44", width of iron wheel 1¼". I have tried high up and low down to find tyres to fit this beast, with no success. Anybody got an idea?

Sam

 

[marcros]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-BLUE-MAX-UR ... 51e1f3e454

they say that they can make any size

 

[Beau]

How about cork http://scosarg.com/30mm-wide-rubber-cork-m

Fixed up our old Wadkin with this and it's been faultless

 

[merlin]

Hello Sam,

I fitted a pair of the Blue Max to my Wadkin and they are good, very good service and not bad price.

Merlin

 

[SammyQ]

Thanks Blokes; I was just thinking: 'I've forgotten about S&S - they supplied OPJ's stuff..'. THEN I did a quick calculation: £68.40 for glue and cork, for both wheels.....sheesh....so, I got a query in to Blue Max pronto. Will let you know how I get on.

Sam

 

[blackrodd]

I can recommend blue max tyres, I had a set about 3 years ago and they're very good,
They'll last a bit longer than cork!
Regards Rodders

 

[Beau]

I can recommend blue max tyres, I had a set about 3 years ago and they're very good,
They'll last a bit longer than cork!
Regards Rodders

Got anything to back that up Rod?

Mine are around ten years and showing no signs of ware

 

[SammyQ]

Gary at Blue Max got back to me overnight :shock: Saturday overnight! He quoted me Hebay 272198051594, which translates as US $44.95 (approximately £31.68) and $19.95 (approx. £14.06), so about £45.70 all in. Hmm...cork or urethane? Rodders and Merlin vs Beau? Did I say my middle name was Jacob?

I think it boils down to this: OPJ 's article on installing cork tyres pointed out that he almost made a mistake with cutting to length - despite being a jobbing chippy - and the glue was messy/tricky. I'm NOT earning my bread by woodworking skill, and am therefore more likely to make an elevated testicle of this. DAMHIKT. The urethane tyres might need a bit of brute force and a kettle of hot water to install, but they are ready-cut and all I need to do is slip them on the wheels?

Methinks I will order from 'cross the pond; I'll let y'all know how I get on.
Sam

 

[Myfordman]

When the time comes to re do mine I plan to buy poly vee belts and cut them to glue on with a scarfed joint. A 1270 mm 13 or 14 j section should fit the op wheels.

 

[SammyQ]

Bob, good idea; I understand you, up to a point: "13 or 14 j" . Does that mean something like this please?

http://www.bearingstation.co.uk/Product ... PJ1270500J

- which you then scarf as Olly did? With what glue please? Oh, and my wheels are totally flat faced, no grooves, so where do the ribs go?

PS I haven't neglected the other belting question we corresponded on earlier, but it's raining antediluvially outside and my shed distribution box for 'lecky is in the open, sheltered, but open.

Sam

 

[dzj]

Here's a fellow who made them himself from silicone.
Claims that they're doing fine.

http://www.ibuildit.ca/ibuildit-forum/v ... php?id=218

 

[SammyQ]

Yes, I've seen John's site and also others that use a deeper layer and using a yachting compound that seems more durable than plain ordinary sillycone. Trouble is, you need to establish a regular/uniform layer, or sand it so - and doing that can be no end of a faff.

Sam

 

[dzj]

Yeah, could be a bit of a faff.
I made my tires a few years back from two scarfed flat belts glued with contact cement.
Works fine.

 

[SammyQ]

Ta!

 

[Myfordman]

Bob, good idea; I understand you, up to a point: "13 or 14 j" . Does that mean something like this please?

http://www.bearingstation.co.uk/Product ... PJ1270500J

- which you then scarf as Olly did? With what glue please? Oh, and my wheels are totally flat faced, no grooves, so where do the ribs go?

PS I haven't neglected the other belting question we corresponded on earlier, but it's raining antediluvially outside and my shed distribution box for 'lecky is in the open, sheltered, but open.

Sam

I decide on this approach when I saw the prices of startrite tyre which are factory bonded on to the wheels on my saw
These belts come with different V profiles. J section is pitch 2.35mm (0.092") as shown in your link. 13 or 14 J will be about 1.25" to cover your wheels.
I've not seen OPJ write up.
I'd fit them vee downwards with a good solvent based contact adhesive evostick etc.
Cut the first scarf (make a wooden jig to help) then glue on all but the last few inches and allow to dry overnight with a band clamp on it or rope and tourniquet. The cut the second scarf precisely to close on the first on using the jig and then glue up and again leave overnight in a clamp.
Angle the scarf joint so the blade motion acts to close the scarf.

Quite a few poly vee belts on ebay - which is where I spotted the 1270mm length. Some vendors sell them priced per rib

Like most drive belts some are sold by imperial length in multiples of 1/10" eg a 500 belt is the same as 1270mm = 50"

 

[SammyQ]

Thanks a lot - again - Bob; that's crystal clear. Looks like I may have an option C and cheaper than the others. I have no problem working with contact glue/cement and I just copped on from your description that YOUR scarfing technique tucks the first-cut end UNDER the last-to-be-glued end!...neat trick! I also appreciate what you mean by rotation aiding the scarfing.

Mr. M., I really do owe you a bottle of "third run" stuff (or, as some call it: " uisce beatha").

Sam

 

[sploo]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-BLUE-MAX-URETHANE-BAND-SAW-TIRE-SET-REPLACES-CRAFTSMAN-TIRE-BS90104201-/351683208276?hash=item51e1f3e454

they say that they can make any size

+1

Not the easiest to fit, but they certainly seem to work pretty well.

 

[Beau]

Gary at Blue Max got back to me overnight :shock: Saturday overnight! He quoted me Hebay 272198051594, which translates as US $44.95 (approximately £31.68) and $19.95 (approx. £14.06), so about £45.70 all in. Hmm...cork or urethane? Rodders and Merlin vs Beau? Did I say my middle name was Jacob?

I think it boils down to this: OPJ 's article on installing cork tyres pointed out that he almost made a mistake with cutting to length - despite being a jobbing chippy - and the glue was messy/tricky. I'm NOT earning my bread by woodworking skill, and am therefore more likely to make an elevated testicle of this. DAMHIKT. The urethane tyres might need a bit of brute force and a kettle of hot water to install, but they are ready-cut and all I need to do is slip them on the wheels?

Methinks I will order from 'cross the pond; I'll let y'all know how I get on.
Sam

Not knocking the urethane as never tried it just defending the cork. It's not the easiest to fit so sounds like you have made the right choice .

 

[MIGNAL]

The cork seems expensive. Surely you can buy the stuff in sheet form and cut it up. Probably take 5 minutes armed with a straightedge and a scalpel.
Alternately, what would Matthias do when faced with such a problem? :wink: