upgrading insert on rutlands xact deluxe router table

[graycbr]

hi guys
got the xact deluxe router table from rutlands a few yrs ago ..
The insert has bowed with the weight of the router ..
Just brought a new router Triton TRA001 so after a new insert so I'll have no problems with the new setup..
The table takes a insert plate measuring 305mm x 230mm ,so be handy if there's a insert that will drop straight in ..
any views be helpful

 

[sunnybob]

If its the blue plate made by Kreg, contact them for a free replacement. They did not quibble in any way shape or form when I asked for mine to be replaced.

Even if its another make, its worth an email to customer services.

If all else fails, theres a guy on ebay who makes stainless steel ones to order, but be prepared to spend all of your secret tool fund.

 

[MattRoberts]

I have the kreg insert for my TRA001:

Kreg 250204 Insert Plate https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00LCEWNAI/ ... 9zb831Y20T

Really pleased with it, and no bowing or distortion after a year of use.

 

[Alexam]

As general interest, do many inserts bow as a result of heavy ruters. It would be helpful to know these things.
Malcolm

 

[Roughcut]

As general interest, do many inserts bow as a result of heavy ruters. It would be helpful to know these things.
Malcolm

The phenolic one's can with a heavy router attached over time.

 

[Glynne]

I have the Rutlands table and found that the insert that came with it does bow withe weight of a heavy router - I have a Trend T9 (early version of the T11). It is especially noticeable when routing with the fence close to the cutter I.e. in the centre of the plate. I couldn’t easily find a standard plate that would just fit the table so in the end I upgraded by using a piece of 12mm phenolic plastic which was kindly suggested and supplied by Woodmonkey. The phenolic is very easy to machine and rock solid and I just bought some set screws and tapped the corners to provide for levelling the plate.
I think Woodmonkey routed a rebate to allow for the insert rings but as I use an Xtreme Extension (from Peter Sefton) I simply cut out a hole just to give minimal clearance.

 

[sunnybob]

There are quite a few who have reported the Kreg bowing, including me. Any phenolic can bend, but if you can get 12 mm thick you should be fine (the kreg is 9 mm).

 

[graycbr]

The Rutland's router table comes with a solid phenolic insert plate

 

[sunnybob]

The Rutland's router table comes with a solid phenolic insert plate

Yes, thats the whole point. A solid 9 mm phenolic plate CAN and sometimes WILL deform under the weight of a big router.

 

[Steve Maskery]

If you are replacing your plate, spring for an aluminium one. I have the gold one (Incra?) supplied by Peter Sefton (I think it's Incra, I get Incra and Kreg mixed up).
Yes I know it is expensive, but it is excellent, and you will never need to replace it. Also they have recently changed the design so that you can use a Router Raizer without having to mount it sideways on (after several of us nagged and were told it wasn't possible...).
Expensive but the best.

 

[graycbr]

If you are replacing your plate, spring for an aluminium one. I have the gold one (Incra?) supplied by Peter Sefton (I think it's Incra, I get Incra and Kreg mixed up).
Yes I know it is expensive, but it is excellent, and you will never need to replace it. Also they have recently changed the design so that you can use a Router Raizer without having to mount it sideways on (after several of us nagged and were told it wasn't possible...).
Expensive but the best.

Yes nice but expensive :-(
Plus Pre drilled version Incra 7518 for the triton which I've ordered ...
But I like the quality hmmm

 

[graycbr]

Any more aluminium inserts worth looking at ?
Plus what's the best way to fill in the difference as looks like the Rutlands is slightly bigger than all the other makes ,so far I've looked at . Mine is 305mm x 230mm ??

 

[sunnybob]

As long as the gap is only one or two mm, you dont need to fill it. The acid test is when you run a small piece of wood across the centre. If it catches on a gap (or a hump), thats when you need to do some work on it.

 

[graycbr]

If you are replacing your plate, spring for an aluminium one. I have the gold one (Incra?) supplied by Peter Sefton (I think it's Incra, I get Incra and Kreg mixed up).
Yes I know it is expensive, but it is excellent, and you will never need to replace it. Also they have recently changed the design so that you can use a Router Raizer without having to mount it sideways on (after several of us nagged and were told it wasn't possible...).
Expensive but the best.

Yes nice but expensive :-(
Plus Pre drilled version Incra 7518 for the triton which I've ordered ...
But I like the quality hmmm

Oh steve now look what you made me do
Incra 7518 plate
Incra LS system ..
looking at the Incra clean sweep plates now ahhhh lol

 

[Steve Maskery]

Just get the plate and the inserts. The fence is a PITA. Excellent precision, yes, but the practicality of all that rear space you need to operate it makes it a difficult ergonomic arrangement in the average hobby workshop.
But if, like me, you have the Cathedral of Woodwork, it's another matter...