Steve's workshop - Painting the outside walls

[JakeS]

What is really frustrating is that there are no recorded cases of sheds spontaneously combusting. Shed fires have occurred but by human action either criminal or accidental. I know what the planning laws say but as we know the law is an asinine institution.

Isn't the point more that regardless of whether it's by accident or design, sheds do sometimes burn down and they don't want your shed setting fire to your neighbour's house/shed/cat/etc. if it does go up?

If some guy builds a shed right up against the back of his neighbour's house, and then goes out in the middle of summer to oil a load of wood, stuffs the rags in the bin against the wall and then leaves, the fact that he never intended to set his shed on fire is cold comfort to the neighbour whose house was burned down while he was on holiday...

 

[blackrodd]

What is really frustrating is that there are no recorded cases of sheds spontaneously combusting. Shed fires have occurred but by human action either criminal or accidental. I know what the planning laws say but as we know the law is an asinine institution.

Isn't the point more that regardless of whether it's by accident or design, sheds do sometimes burn down and they don't want your shed setting fire to your neighbour's house/shed/cat/etc. if it does go up?

If some guy builds a shed right up against the back of his neighbour's house, and then goes out in the middle of summer to oil a load of wood, stuffs the rags in the bin against the wall and then leaves, the fact that he never intended to set his shed on fire is cold comfort to the neighbour whose house was burned down while he was on holiday...

A friend of mine lost his motorbike collection as some kids had set light to the fence, in the allotments behind his shed.
All the inside lot was burnt or melted, fence gone and insurance company being their usual slippery selves,
Looking for a way out of paying!
So I would say It's not a bad idea for fire precautions, as unlikely as it may seem.
Regards Rodders

 

[Phil Pascoe]

A year since the first post the day after tomorrow. Any celebrations planned?

 

[Graham Orm]

Yes, I have a short list of two. Neither perfect, but both will satisfy the BCO.
I'll keep you posted.
S

Couldn't you have gone over the top of the cladding and re-trimmed the corners?

 

[Steve Maskery]

I'd been turning my attention to the soffits and had got stuck. What to do here?

I knew I needed to end the soffit with some kind of box, and there is a nursing home nearby with a similar construction, but the details were eluding me. Eventually the penny dropped and I realised I was making it far more complicated than it needed to be.

So I made a box end from a piece of OSB

and attached some lath to support the ends of the boards, positioned so there would be a little bit of an overhang

Then, with a lot of palaver, I screwed it in place. It was very difficult to do single handedly - board, spirit level, screwdriver, screw - it would be much easier with two. But I did get it up and then didn't take a photo. Sorry, but this is where it went and what it looks like now.

I'll attach another piece to go with the slope of the trusses.

I want to do as little overhead painting as possible, so I figured I'd give the cladding two coats before it goes up and finish the front wall while I'm at it so that I don't contaminate one with the other.

So I popped a few nails, spread a little caulk and painted. Both the grey and the white have now had two coats of paint.

I did manage to get a few lengths up but it is too difficult for one, I'm going to leave the rest until Ray comes. I need a holder-of-the-other-end.

Ad so as it started to rain on my newly painted batch of boards for next time it looks like this

 

[Shultzy]

Steve, the answer to your soffit dilemma is on page 3 of my workshop build, about half way down. Screw a few loose laths on and twist them into position to hold the soffit board and nail on.

 

[Steve Maskery]

Hey, Steve, nice to hear from you. Long time no see.
That is a very good idea, I'll try it. It might make getting the T&G to mate considerably easier.
Thank you
S

 

[Shultzy]

Glad you remembered me. I could have offered you my coil nailer and nails if I had seen the start of your build but I'd been doing other things.

 

[Steve Maskery]

Now he tells me!!

S

 

[Wizard9999]

Yes, I have a short list of two. Neither perfect, but both will satisfy the BCO.
I'll keep you posted.
S

Couldn't you have gone over the top of the cladding and re-trimmed the corners?

I think Steve has done the right thing removing the cladding first, no point pushing his luck any further. To be honest the outcome with the BCO is as good as I think could have been expected, my read of the rules is that once you are within 1 metre of the boundary the building has to be non-combustable not just the part within 1 metre, so the BCO is being pretty reasonable IMHO. Steve must have been very persuasive, but then that doesn't surprise me as I have always been stunned as to how he managed to get planning consent for a workshop that big relative to the size of the space it is being built in and so close to the neighbours' gardens, especially with (if I understand correctly from mentions of a log cabin) another outbuilding already in the garden.

You said a few days ago that you wondered what you would do with yourself after the build Steve, how about planning and building reg's representation for others wanting to put up a workshop :lol: .

Terry.

 

[Graham Orm]

Yes, I have a short list of two. Neither perfect, but both will satisfy the BCO.
I'll keep you posted.
S

Couldn't you have gone over the top of the cladding and re-trimmed the corners?

I think Steve has done the right thing removing the cladding first, no point pushing his luck any further. To be honest the outcome with the BCO is as good as I think could have been expected, my read of the rules is that once you are within 1 metre of the boundary the building has to be non-combustable not just the part within 1 metre, so the BCO is being pretty reasonable IMHO. Steve must have been very persuasive, but then that doesn't surprise me as I have always been stunned as to how he managed to get planning consent for a workshop that big relative to the size of the space it is being built in and so close to the neighbours' gardens, especially with (if I understand correctly from mentions of a log cabin) another outbuilding already in the garden.

You said a few days ago that you wondered what you would do with yourself after the build Steve, how about planning and building reg's representation for others wanting to put up a workshop :lol: .

Terry.

The thing is everything within the wall is combustible, by putting a non combustible layer outside you are stopping the flame reaching the neighbours for long enough for the fire brigade to arrive. By cloaking the existing cladding you still add that same layer of protection and the cladding adds to insulation. Anyway, it's done now so all hypothetical.

 

[Steve Maskery]

Today, as Phil pointed out, is one year to the day since I removed that first roofing bolt. Little did I realise what I was taking on.
So happy Birthday to me!
No work today, I'm going walking.
S

 

[n0legs]

Little did I realise what I was taking on.

S

Worth it though mate :wink:

 

[Steve Maskery]

Worth it though mate :wink:

Possibly. But the jury is still out, I'd say.

 

[lanemaux]

I'm managing to be both jealous of you and happy for you at the same time amigo. Not far to go now , Xanadu is just over that next rise. Hoist something in mug or glass for me amigo , as I'm definitely with you in spirit (spirit , get it?). And her ladyship even had a bit to toast your years anniversary. A rare occurence indeed !

 

[Steve Maskery]

You will remember that I had started to build the soffit box end, so today I continued.

I fitted a second piece of OSB so I had some support for the ends of the boards which come down the trusses

This is what it looks like from the outside

I pinned up some more lengths and was delighted to find that the widths worked out perfectly. Pure fluke, I assure you.

I've also started to make the box end at the RH side as well. Notice the use of a couple of Shultzies (TM) to support the boards.

So this is how the day ends. I've cut a board half an inch too short and dropped my nice ring magnet which has shattered but otherwise the day has gone smoothly. Slowly, yes, but smoothly.

 

[Harry 48]

Slow and steady win's the race Steve (hammer)

 

[Steve Maskery]

It's been a nuisance to find a way of having my drill to hand. It's a bit heavy to put in the tin, it's always on the brink of tipping out. So I made this

It works brilliantly.

I finished the soffit box ends today. Well I thought I had, I've forgotten the back face of the RH one.

Ray's coming tomorrow. I'm glad about that because I've run out of cladding (well the stuff that's already been used) and I don't really want to use the virgin stuff. But it's just too painful to get it off. So I'm hoping Ray can take them off while I paint and put them up.

 

[Racers]

Looking good Steve.

Pete

 

[Noel]

Well done Steve, shop is looking very good. Great progress.
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