Jacob
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Not once you have got used to it. It can help if you stick to the simple rule of using the gears; 1st up to 10mph, 2nd to 20, 3rd 30, 4th 40 etc. This is one thing you get told on speed awareness courses.
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Lons
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My car is an automatic and 20 mph is right on the change over of gears so it's a pain, and the whole point of an auto is the convenience when driving in heavy traffic and stop go areas. Flicking into manual to hold gears rather defeats the object and no, I have not intention of changing the car.
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Jacob
New Luddism. Awake and resist!
It's about road safety not the environment.So on that basis you're going to drive around those 20mph areas in second gear, that's really going to help the environment.
Could have environmental benefits of course, if car owners are persuaded to buy cars which are more economical at low speeds.
Lons
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Is yours?
Jacob
New Luddism. Awake and resist!
Don't know. But to be realistic the 20 limit change is not going to make much difference to anybodys overall fuel economy, or journey times, as has been pointed out over and over again.
John Brown
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Don't move to Wales.
Lons
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If you make generalised statements then you should really know how your own vehicle performs.
That aside, it's not a simple equation as there are many reports that traffic jams are being caused by the lower speeds, I don't know if that's correct but if it is than standstill and crawling traffic is pushing out emissions at a higher rate, e.g. idling and very low speed in 1st gear is the least efficient way to drive. The most economical appears to be between 40 - 55mph but of course that depends on whether petrol or diesel, gearing and several other factors.
Lons
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I was there a couple of years ago and have a relative living there, nice enough to visit but I would want to live there, but thanks for the advice.
Jacob
New Luddism. Awake and resist!
Doesn't follow.
Odd that, traffic jams traditionally cause low speeds, are not caused by them. I don't think anything has changed.
Have traffic jams increased? I doubt it. Logically, slow speeds should reduce traffic jams as people will be arriving at slow spots later rather than sooner, with fewer tailbacks.
Tris
What am I doing here?
There have been a number of speed limit changes locally over the past year or so. A 30 has been extended, and 20 introduced in the town centre. For the first few months enforcement vans were around a couple of times a week until locals got used to the new limits, it has worked well except for the Chelsea tractor drivers. Why on earth does personal transport need to weigh 2½ tonnes!
Once tourist season starts 20 is aspirational, one of the joys of living in the Cotswolds
Once tourist season starts 20 is aspirational, one of the joys of living in the Cotswolds
Because it might not be…
Chelsea tractor essential to show off your wealth to the peasants of course, and quite literally look down on everyone else. The downside of this ostentatious nonsense tragically demonstrated recently in Wimbledon.There have been a number of speed limit changes locally over the past year or so. A 30 has been extended, and 20 introduced in the town centre. For the first few months enforcement vans were around a couple of times a week until locals got used to the new limits, it has worked well except for the Chelsea tractor drivers. Why on earth does personal transport need to weigh 2½ tonnes!
Once tourist season starts 20 is aspirational, one of the joys of living in the Cotswolds
Cornwall tourist season:
I once counted, on average...... every 4th car that came towards me on a regular 10 mile drive to work was a chelsea tractor / SUV whatever.
If you meet one on a narrow road, apparently the reverse gear doesn't work
I once counted, on average...... every 4th car that came towards me on a regular 10 mile drive to work was a chelsea tractor / SUV whatever.
If you meet one on a narrow road, apparently the reverse gear doesn't work
Get a good sized van. It's very satisfying to make Chelsea tractor drivers back up when they fail to give proper right of way....
I do drive a van, small one though
Back to the original thread though....
Interesting conversation on Politics Live right this very minute (re the tory conference) Apparently Rishi, wants to put a stop on all these traffic calming / speed restrictions particularly the 20mph calling it a war on motorists .....
Interesting conversation on Politics Live right this very minute (re the tory conference) Apparently Rishi, wants to put a stop on all these traffic calming / speed restrictions particularly the 20mph calling it a war on motorists .....
Tris
What am I doing here?
Or a real tractor
John Brown
Freeloading Social media influenza
He's desperate to get some votes at election time.
Beats me why anyone would want to be PM, least of all someone who's stinking rich. Maybe he was bullied at school?
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