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Howjoe

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Is anyone else left dog sitting very nervous dogs this evening? Ours is having a really tough time of it. :(

I wish private use of fireworks was restricted or even better, not permitted at all apart from organsied public shows....which are a much better spectacle, anyway.

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:twisted: I'm with you on this one we are of out to some where it is very quiet my poor "becky" hates them poor love she culdles up to me shaking :cry:

i think as you say the use fireworks should be LTD to displays only

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Oh yes, Samwise is frightened of anything that makes a noise, wont come and see what I am doing in the shop because of the noise, while Iona will wander in if I make a noise to see what I am doing. :roll:

But neither are happy with the fireworks and we have had them for a week or more now and I bet they go on for at least another week. :twisted:
 

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You have my sympathy with your dogs my neighbour has the same problem with his one ,i on the other hand have 2 black labs that are trained to the gun so they are in their element ,they must think its like going shooting with me a lot of bangs but nothing to pick up :oops:
 

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strangely our dog isn't phased at all. infact we had a firework display at home last weekend and we had to lock her in doors for fear of her chasing the fireworks!!
 

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I have a number of dogs, and they are not phased at all. In fact, with one I have to lock her in her kennel as she sits outside to watch. I have sympathy with those who have problems, but the minority dog keepers surely cannot put a dampers on the rest enjoying their private celebrations.

On a constructive note, I always socialise my dogs with a cd called crash bang wallop from puppies onwards. I feel this has been a help.
 

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Two of my dogs are ignoring the fireworks. The third, who is well adjusted to traffic, social gatherings etc, is making sure that I can't type with both hands. Little Remy, who is the pack leader, has been spending this evening on my lap with his head buried into the crook of my elbow. The poor thing usually never seeks company, but tonight he came to me begging.

I'd love to see fireworks limited to properly organised displays only. Those sold for personal use are rarely used responsibly and have been upsetting my dogs for the last fortnight.

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Don't agree that fireworks should be limited to public displays only.
I have kids,but no dogs/cats,so perhaps look at it from a different angle.
However,I do think something should be done about fireworks being let off for weeks before and after bonfire night - there has been legislation brought in for this,but there seems to be no enforcement of it :(
 

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Gill":1tcj2f9y said:
Those sold for personal use are rarely used responsibly and have been upsetting my dogs for the last fortnight.

Gill
I think this overstated, it is a minority as in all things that spoil things for the majority.
 

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Our 7 year old was fine until 2 years ago, when our neighbours held a firework party and one went astray and hit our french doors right where he was a asleep on the other side of it. Hasn't been the same since. Oddly though, he's not affected by shotgun noise every sunday morning.

We're also looking after my mother's dog, and he's not bothered with it in the slightest.

I've trained dogs (and their owners) in the past, and sometimes with the odd dog, the fear of a certain noise or situation is almost impossible to cure completely.

IMO, organised displays are the way to go, if any kind of control is going to be effective - and not only because animals are scared during this time. The age restriction obviously doesn't work.

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Howard I can see where you are coming from, but what do we ban next. Alcohol - so we get no drunks or fights, football matches - so we don't get hooligans or fights, cars - so we don't have accidents. Where does it end? :?
 

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evening all .

Howard I can see where you are coming from, but what do we ban next. Alcohol - so we get no drunks or fights, football matches

i'll go with the banning of football! :D :D
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Freetochat":2o9g6oij said:
Gill":2o9g6oij said:
Those sold for personal use are rarely used responsibly and have been upsetting my dogs for the last fortnight.

Gill
I think this overstated, it is a minority as in all things that spoil things for the majority.
I'm not sure what evidence you have to accuse me of overstating my case. Fireworks have been let off every night in my neighbourhood for the last fortnight, often starting at dusk and continuing past midnight. They are being set off as I type.

My experience is that there are too many irresponsible people who cannot be trusted with fireworks. It's not a case of minority dog keepers trying to spoil things for the majority - it is a case of an event that many people enjoy which is being spoiled by a significant minority of firework abusers.

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May I add to this debate that I am with Gill on this one. Sorry to the people with the opposite opinion, but animals are here 24-7-365. They don't follow our 'reasoning' that we will make a terrific noise once a year & the rest we'll be quiet. organised displays for me please.

Cheers, Sliver, (Norm).
 

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Gill":1ps2akpa said:
Freetochat":1ps2akpa said:
Gill":1ps2akpa said:
Those sold for personal use are rarely used responsibly and have been upsetting my dogs for the last fortnight.

Gill
I think this overstated, it is a minority as in all things that spoil things for the majority.
I'm not sure what evidence you have to accuse me of overstating my case. Fireworks have been let off every night in my neighbourhood for the last fortnight, often starting at dusk and continuing past midnight. They are being set off as I type.
I am going to add my voice to support Gill on this, I was woken by fireworks at 00:45 this morning.

The other thing that we have not thought about is the safety of both the spectators and those setting the fireworks. Many of the large fireworks now on sale in places like ASDA state a distance to retire to once they are lit, which for the average town dweller is about 3 or 4 gardens away. So how are they being used responsibly?
 

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Howjoe":dmewz2qr said:
...shotgun noise every sunday morning.
Lot of weddings in your area, eh? :lol:

Our cats don't bat an eyelid. The parrots positively love them; all that drama and hullabaloo is right up their tree branch. Personally I hate fireworks - dunno why, 'cos I don't recall having had any nasty experience of them. Just my natural cowardice I suppose. Would I ban 'em if I could? You betcha. But it wouldn't be for the benefit of the animals; on that basis Culdrose should stop flying over our house 'cos it upsets the parrots, which is daft. Nope, just seems to me lighting black powder all over the place to hurl projectiles into the air is a stupid, unnecessary risk whoever does it. It's an explosive, for heaven's sakes! That anyone who's old enough in years lived (regardless of how much plain sense they exhibit) and with enough cash in their pocket to buy them is allowed to do so is just beyond my comprehension I'm afraid. And don't get me started on giving sparklers to children...

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This debate can go on and on and I do find empathy for those disturbed by something, but I believe when calling for bans on things with which we disagree or find an interuption is not the place to go. There are so many intrusions on the freedom of choice to live our lives as we would like, and I believe to continue on this route of restriction is not a good thing for the tolerance of society.
 

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Even tho my dog is fine with fireworks, I agree with Gill also. I just don't think gunpowder should be so freely sold to the public. Thousands of people will be admitted to hospital this weekend with firework related injuries. They are so expensive anyway, you're better off going to a big display and watching thousands of pounds of fireworks as apposed to wasting £100 on a very small home display.

But, like selling cigarettes that kill people to the public, the government will never enforce a total ban. We may be lucky to see some tougher regulations in the future.
 

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Freetochat":1cjdl06a said:
Howard I can see where you are coming from, but what do we ban next. Alcohol - so we get no drunks or fights, football matches - so we don't get hooligans or fights, cars - so we don't have accidents. Where does it end? :?
I didn't say there should be a ban, I said there should be restrictions that work. The two definitions are very different. Public displays done properly, are entertaining and safe - kids love them when they're old enough to appreciate it.....for the first one I attended with my dad when I was 6, I was petrified that they'd come down and land on my head :oops:

I don't think this type of restriction is going to lead to alcohol, football and cars being banned...........!!
 
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