pgrbff
Established Member
I was fortunate to buy the Jessem imperial version heavily discounted from Germany. It is very good.
Dowel jig
- Thread starter Deaconspike
- Start date
Help Support UKworkshop.co.uk:
If you read the buyers reviews occasionally there are comments regarding design or accuracy usually confirmed by several other buyers . Banggood obviously listen to their customers as weeks/ months later you will see the same product with the word upgraded in the description . They have most likely addressed the issues . Ok so maybe your average proffesional would not buy these products for whatever reasons but it’s a little different for your average hobbyist or weekend woodworker on limited budgets . A £500 bit of kit from the likes of woodpeckers can be easily justified if you have multiple clients paying a premium price for bespoke work as the cost can be absorbed over several jobs . This approach would not work for non professionals .
pgrbff
Established Member
I'm DIY, I do the odd bit for friends and neighbours. I like shiny tools but have never bought anything Woodpecker. I'm more of a pro. Starrett type. If I can't afford it, which is often the case I will wait.
Jacob
New Luddism. Wake up and resist.
Yep. Hardly ever done dowels as a joint, except quite often as repair of existing.
Right. I'll take your word for it!
I wondered about the double sided drawing pin idea which I saw somewhere, maybe that'd be better?
Last edited:
stuart little
Established Member
Before purchasing my Dowelmax, I made a 'copy', & yes, inaccuracies crept in, but only thousands of an inch, but enough to make it useless for the intended purpose. I bit the bullet & ordered one from the then UK agent, & have never regretted it. I've made two sideboards, a hi-fi cabinet , & a pedestal desk etc using it.
I have the ‘multi-hole puncher’ that’s been mentioned in this thread, but I use it for dowel joints with either the 6mm or 8mm drill guides. Not thought to use it for shelf pin holes as a) I would need to order some 5mm drill guides, b) the holes produced using the drill guides may be too sloppy for the shelf pin, and c) I have a previously purchased Kreg shelf pin jig that I’ve found accurate enough for my needs.
Jacob
New Luddism. Wake up and resist.
Sloppy shelf pins no prob (within reason) once they are in and supporting a shelf. They can't go anywhere.
Exactly, within reason. I’ve heard of people using a slightly undersized drill bit for their 5mm shelf pins to ensure a snug fit.
But as mentioned in my reply to the OP, I don’t run the risk of sloppy holes (ooh err) as I don’t use my ‘multi-hole puncher’ for drilling shelf pin holes.
Aligish
Established Member
I Have the Wnew jig from Banggood and I can confirm it is excellent.
It is accurate, easy to use and well thought-out. A substantial piece of kit, it comes with all you need to produce accurate and consistent dowel joints. It is useful to have a clamp - they offer a kit which includes one - but if you have a pocket hole jig you’ll already have one.
Check out the Hooked on Wood reviews on YouTube. Well worth it.
It is accurate, easy to use and well thought-out. A substantial piece of kit, it comes with all you need to produce accurate and consistent dowel joints. It is useful to have a clamp - they offer a kit which includes one - but if you have a pocket hole jig you’ll already have one.
Check out the Hooked on Wood reviews on YouTube. Well worth it.
Investigate a Woden X-190
They can be found on that well known auction site for C £20.00 - £30.00 depending on condition.
Though pristine examples seem to be reaching £40.00 with the box cover.
They come with imperial bushes but will accept 6-8 and10mm drill bits.
I have two!
They can be found on that well known auction site for C £20.00 - £30.00 depending on condition.
Though pristine examples seem to be reaching £40.00 with the box cover.
They come with imperial bushes but will accept 6-8 and10mm drill bits.
I have two!
Fair play to you , I could easily spend thousands on the likes of woodpeckers etc , starrett no argument there I have many starrett hole saws and arbours and would not consider any others . But due to cash or the lack of it I’ve explored the likes of Banggood . I honestly not say something was good if it wasn’t so no offence intended or taken ..
These were the videos that changed my opinion of Bangood , I was a bit of a tool snob prior but he changed my mind. tbh very well made videos s and informative .
I have always used my Woden jig for jointing. I have also found to does the job quickly and easily.
Rhossydd
Established Member
Looks OK, but unusually for Rutlands there's a scathing review of it, finishing...
" I am a professional cabinet maker, fortunately I tested the jig on some off cuts before using for its intended purpose. This product is not suitable for quality work despite its price."
They must have removed that review smartish because as of 5 minutes ago there are only four 5 star reviews. No surprises there...............
Rhossydd
Established Member
No, it's still there. 6 reviews, 4 on the first page, 2 on the second. You need to click next to see them all.
Apologies my mistake but when I just looked again there were still only the 4 reviews until I fiddled around and pressed 'Discover all details ' and then the 'next' option with that review suddenly appeared; most odd. I'm cynical about Rutlands since they didn't publish a negative review I gave regarding their 1/2'' router and only did publish it after I insisted, having reminded them how much I had spent with them previously ) It wasn't there for long and then it was back to the all 5 star reviews. I imported a few grands worth of machinery, mainly Scheppach to Ireland from them 20 odd years ago as prices over here were ludicrous and I couldn't fault them, but now it seems only the name is the same.
I was in a rush this morning so only read the 1st page of reviews . Just shows it pays to read them all . Nb is it jyst me or do rutlands make the most dull and boring looking powertools .??
Stevekane
Established Member
I use the Stanley 59 version, it only has provision for drilling a single dowel hole at a time and for my woodwork it works great, and because it only comes with Imperial bushes I had to learn to grind my own lip and spur drill bits, and make my own dowels to suit, but I think these guys are talking about a whole different ball game with their expected levels of accuracy!
Steve.
