Diesel question

[Sportique]

Hi all those car people.

On starting from cold my diesel mis-fires for about 5-8 seconds, (emitting typical diesel blue smoke) then quickly runs cleanly on all 4.

Apart from the above first starting problem, there is then no further mis-firing under any circumstances and no smoke either.

Would this be the "heater" failing on one or more cyclinders? or is it injectors? or what - any ideas please?

Thanks

Dave

 

[blurk99]

depends how old they are.... measure resistance through the terminals of the glowplugs (take the power leads off), or make a test lamp and run 12 volts through the glowplug via an indicator bulb, if one's failing the rest won't be far behind, i tend to change mine every 12,000 miles or so anyway

jim

 

[jpt]

Yes it sounds like a heater plug out a friend had the same problem and we tested them as Jim says above and found one that had a bad connection sorted that out and it was OK.

As Jim said if one has failed the others will probably join it soon.

john

 

[dickm]

Ouch. Mine have been in for at least 40000m without any noticeable change. So far..............
But agree that glowplugs sounds the most likely cause of the symptoms.

 

[Sportique]

Thanks all for your confirmation. The car has done about 80,000 miles and I have not changed the gloplugs since I bought it at about 45,000 miles :wink: - so I will test and change as necessary :lol: :lol:

PS - its a camper van conversion on a Clio :shock: :shock:

Dave

 

[devonwoody]

Any chance that petrol was put in at sometime?

I dont know anything about diesels so just a basic suggestion.

 

[Sportique]

DW - not during my tenure.

The symptoms reported above have only been since the last couple of weeks. Pretty sure its the glow plugs.

Dave

 

[dickm]

PS - its a camper van conversion on a Clio :shock: :shock:

Dave

So that's where Nicole goes at weekends!

 

[Jonzjob]

Thanks all for your confirmation. The car has done about 80,000 miles and I have not changed the gloplugs since I bought it at about 45,000 miles :wink: - so I will test and change as necessary :lol: :lol:

PS - its a camper van conversion on a Clio :shock: :shock:

Dave

Any chance of a photo? A camper off a Clio!!!!!!!!!!

To me it sounds like heater plugs too, but on something like a Clio I would only expect that when it gets fairly cold? Still worth checking though.

 

[big soft moose]

google finds this - hmmm compact an bijou :lol:

 

[Jonzjob]

Now that makes a 2CV look ordinary! :shock: :shock: :shock:

And before anyone says anyfing I am a GREAT fan of 2CVs!

That :? :shock: :? :shock:

 

[Sportique]

Hey BSM - that is the very car !!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

The photo was taken (by unknown) in Morrison's car park at St Andrews Fife.

Designed as 4-berth! it has an elevating roof, a shower!, two-burner gas cooker, wash-basin, dining table and mains electric hook-up.

The only change to the original Clio is the hatchback door has been replaced with the fibre-glass "add-on" unit, otherwise original Clio. Built on new cars in 1995/6 the designer chose the Clio because its original pay-load capability was ample. I believe the designer is the same man that made the "Mini-moke" conversion.

Dave

 

[big soft moose]

Hey BSM - that is the very car !!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

thats spooky - i'm not stalking you honest :lol:

I just googled "clio camper" and found a motor forum with a bunch of posters taking the water out of that photo - I guess there arent very many clio campers arround

 

[Sportique]

BSM - I believe you :wink:

The camper will carry lots of pineapples

At one time it was photographed at Knockhill BTCC race and put on the SEAT web site - with lots of pineapple remarks - becoming quite infamous :!:

Its great fun - always a starts up conversations on camping sites and you should see the reactions from other motorists on the motorway :lol: :lol:

(It will also carry 2.4m lengths with ease :roll: )

Dave

 

[bugbear]

Hi all those car people.

On starting from cold my diesel mis-fires for about 5-8 seconds, (emitting typical diesel blue smoke) then quickly runs cleanly on all 4.

Apart from the above first starting problem, there is then no further mis-firing under any circumstances and no smoke either.

Would this be the "heater" failing on one or more cyclinders? or is it injectors? or what - any ideas please?

Thanks

Dave

Yeah, pre heater issues. I had a Peugeot diesel that was getting "tricky" to start - it turned out to have only ONE working heater plug. It was pretty much starting on one cylinder, which then started the other three!

BugBear

 

[Sportique]

Thanks BB - much as I had thought.

Dave