which jointer.

[jlawrence]

I'm in the market for a No7 (or equivalent).
Got a couple of quid spare so though I'd treat myself.
Options:
Clifton No 7, LN 7 1/2 LA jointer, LV LA jointer.
All seem to be around the same price - give or take.

Has anyone any views on the difference between them.

 

[woodbloke]

Oooooh...bun fight coming up! :lol: :lol: - Rob

 

[Karl]

Well i've tried them all

In order of preference

Clifton
LN
LV

Having said that, I haven't kept any of them - I just use my Philly jointer. So you should put that as No1, IMHO

Cheers

Karl

 

[yetloh]

You are not really comparing like with like here because the Clifton is a bevel down Bedrock type plane whereas the others are simpler bevel up planes with a somewhat lower effective cutting angle. The Veritas and LN equivalents are quite a bit more expensive.

If I was going to have only one jointer, I would go with the Bedrock type because it is more versatile. Its slightly higher angle should make it lees prone to tear-out you will be able to use it on its side with a shooting board which would be impossible with the Veritas and less than ideal with the LN.

If you can run to the Veritas standard jointer I would go for that because it has refinements the others don't have but I no that other posters will disagree!

Jim

 

[Saint Simon]

After some debate on these pages I recently bought a Clifton no.7, the first job for which was flattening and jointing some sawn oak boards.

After doing my best impression of a scarey sharp procedure to the blade I used the plane for the finishing stage on the board's faces and edges. Wonderful! Felt just right in the hand and the end product was boards that stick to each other when stacked flat.

Mustn't say that it looks beautiful too because that sounds like avarice but I do have its picture as the background on this computer's desktop.

Sorry but I have haven't used any of the others on your list of possibles.

Simon

 

[jlawrence]

Jim, have you a link to the Veritas standard jointer - I can't find one anywhere even on the LV website.

I did consider a standard LN No7 but that's a considerable price above the LA 7 1/2.

I like the look of the Veritas jointer - it's just that bit different. I'm not overly bothered about a No 7 for shooting. Got my eyes on something a bit special for shooting with

I am worrying whether I'll find too much tear out using an LA plane - but reading the various reviews others don't seem to have that problem.

Karl - philly doesn't list a jointer on his site so I assumed he didn't do one.

 

[Paul Chapman]

Clifton #7 every time.

I'm not overly bothered about a No 7 for shooting. Got my eyes on something a bit special for shooting with

For shooting, the LN #9 is a real cracker.

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[chingerspy]

Hope this is the link you are after:


http://www.rutlands.co.uk/hand-tools/planing/hand-planes---veritas/P3701/bevel-up-jointer-plane

Seems Rutlands do many of the Veritas planes, there is a no.6 fore plane too which might be worth a look?

 

[woodbloke]

Big Woodie for me and then the LV jointer - Rob

 

[jlawrence]

Paul - I was thinking philly mitre plane.

 

[jlawrence]

http://www.rutlands.co.uk/hand-tools/planing/hand-planes---veritas/P3701/bevel-up-jointer-plane

That's the one I was looking at - as far as I can work out it's the only jointer that Veritas do.

 

[chingerspy]

Certainly the only one I can find mate.

 

[Paul Chapman]

Paul - I was thinking philly mitre plane.

That also works very well.

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[Harbo]

LV Jointer and a LN 9 for shooting.

Just glad I bought my stuff a few years ago! :shock:

Rod

 

[Ironballs]

Buy high quality and buy British, go for the Clifton

 

[Aled Dafis]

+1 for the Clifton. It's GREAT!! and has an O1 blade which is far superior to A2 :wink:

 

[Vann]

Go for the Clifton.

And while not wanting to bring up the O1 vrs A2 debate here (unlike Aled), Clifton forged O1 irons are superior to other O1 irons IMHO.

Cheers, Vann.

 

[woodbloke]

As always though, the advice is 'try before you buy' :wink: - Rob

 

[bugbear]

You are not really comparing like with like here because the Clifton is a bevel down Bedrock type plane whereas the others are simpler bevel up planes with a somewhat lower effective cutting angle. The Veritas and LN equivalents are quite a bit more expensive.

If I was going to have only one jointer, I would go with the Bedrock type because it is more versatile. Its slightly higher angle should make it lees prone to tear-out you will be able to use it on its side with a shooting board which would be impossible with the Veritas and less than ideal with the LN.

I don't understand.

One of the major merits of the bevel up design is the ease of changing the effective pitch (what you've called "cutting angle").

As such, choosing a bevel down design on the basis of its EP seems a little odd.

BugBear

 

[Alf]

Has anyone any views on the difference between them.

Height. Don't laugh - I find the low profile of the BU jointers counterproductive for judging plumb when I'm jointing edges. It may just be me, but certainly if you can have a try between the two types then do so.