Underneath the arches

[bodgerbaz]

for better or worse, I have ordered a pack of (I think) 120 patterns via ebay.de. Google translate helps a bit, but fingers crossed I will find something in there to inspire me, so thanks for that

DVD or download? If download can you please send me the Ebay link when you've proved it works

I think you'll find they are paper patterns.

 

[Aggrajag]

That's a shame

 

[bodgerbaz]

I'm sorry you think its a shame. Downloaded and DVD patterns are usually only A4 in size.

Depending upon which patterns you buy from ebay will depend upon the size. The three arches that I cut each came in 8 different printed sizes all wrapped in an dust-proof A4 polythene envelope. The largest pattern of the 8 sizes is approximately 720 mm x 275 mm (28" x 10.8"). I don't know about you but I can't print anything larger then A4.

 

[Aggrajag]

I had designed all my own patterns previously and have the advantage of owning an A3 printer. If they were on PDF they could be scaled to any size easily but I do see why they don't do it - it almost eliminates piracy.

I'll have another look but I'm scared of buying the wrong thing.

 

[bodgerbaz]

I had designed all my own patterns previously and have the advantage of owning an A3 printer. If they were on PDF they could be scaled to any size easily but I do see why they don't do it - it almost eliminates piracy.

I'll have another look but I'm scared of buying the wrong thing.

That's fair enough. This is the forest one that I cut if it helps? http://www.ebay.de/itm/Schwibbogen-Vorl ... KE:SHOWI

You can see the 8 sizes that it comes in and may be worth a punt at €3.50 plus shipping?

The same chap also offers lots of other stuff in his store including various packs of patterns (A4) as well as a single pattern in various sizes. Good luck ;-)

 

[Aggrajag]

I've taken the plunge and done the same as gilljc and ordered the pack of 120 all A4. If I fancy doing any bigger I'll scan and re-print but I think 28cm should be fine for the majority of them.

Thanks for putting me onto these designs Bodgerbaz.

 

[bodgerbaz]

A little tip regarding the adding of lighting.

It can be quite time consuming working out which route to take when bending the wires and the placing of the bulbs to get even lighting. So, having decided that I might make a few of these, and not wanting to go through the same exercise again, I created an A4 copy of each pattern (shhhh) and drew out the bulb placement and wiring route which looks something like the attached.

I hope this may help.

Barry

 

[Aggrajag]

I used the LED lighting that comes on a roll and you can cut to any length in multiples of three, but I only ran it along the very bottom of the design and let it shine upwards - does this not work well enough or does the extra effort really make it worth doing? (I'm not being critical or funny! I'm genuinely interested and I've not seen your builds in the flesh.)

 

[bodgerbaz]

I've taken the plunge and done the same as gilljc and ordered the pack of 120 all A4. If I fancy doing any bigger I'll scan and re-print but I think 28cm should be fine for the majority of them.

Thanks for putting me onto these designs Bodgerbaz.

You are very welcome indeed. I hope you have a lot of fun with them.

I also bought a set of the 120 A4 patterns and just happened to have translated the instructions. If you and Gill would like a copy the instructions translate as :-

120 Motive - Building instructions:

The construction of the flying buttress provides 7 to 11 candlesticks, however, it is not a must. With a little feeling for design can be according to the number taste change. Just as well you can do without wax candles and take an electric lighting set for it. Is not one of specialist, an electrician should be consulted.

For cutting out the Arches is 6mm thick birch plywood recommended. Used to transmit the document to the plywood to best a Pausnadel and tracing paper.

An alternative to this would be the template with a releasable adhesive to glue to the plywood and then auszusägen.

As candlestick should cylindrical, olive-shaped or use ball-like candle holder. For secure attachment of the Candlestick drilled to a 2mm thick hole in the bottom of the Candlestick and in the candlestick levels in the flying buttress. As can man parts with 2mm steel wire in addition to the glues still pinning. That's safer.

As foot at least two are mounted, transverse standing feet or using a wide, slotted with the strength of the candle arch flat wood, where the flying buttress is then glued. But here too own creativity no bounds.

Each motif is available in four different sizes. If you want to have a different size, you can under or [email protected] under Plan Goals eBay make contact, in the Size is everything feasible. We have printed large originals with 5000mm width.

They achieve a slightly different effect when the flying buttress auschneidet twice, the outer contour around cuts, ie one cuts the steps for the candlestick away, behind stuck with transparent paper,
intervening spacer mounts and electric light sandwiched there between. You can also place the candlestick levels the contours of trees cut or Christmas typical structures and behind electrical
Puts light, or a Mini Christmas Lights mounts.

WARNING:
The Arches is not to operate without supervision!


But to be honest, all I did was to copy the original master-pattern to an A4 single-label sheet and stuck it on to my stack of 4 sheets of ply and cut it out. I worked out the lighting route myself and pretty much made it up as I went along.

One thing I DID do however, was to add an EXTRA 25mm to the bottom of the pattern to allow for a 25 x 25 mm batten to act as a base and for each 'side' to to glued to.

 

[bodgerbaz]

I used the LED lighting that comes on a roll and you can cut to any length in multiples of three, but I only ran it along the very bottom of the design and let it shine upwards - does this not work well enough or does the extra effort really make it worth doing? (I'm not being critical or funny! I'm genuinely interested and I've not seen your builds in the flesh.)

I couldn't find anything over here like you described that was shorter than about 5m and was pretty bulky and pretty pricy. So, when I came across the ones I described I was over the moon.

From recollection, the pictures of the ones you posted looked brilliant and I'm sure it will be perfect. If you create a 'pair', with a batten in between to keep the sides apart, try a mock-up and see how it looks? I'm sure it'll look great from memory.

 

[Aggrajag]

Cheers for all this info Baz, you are a star.

Here's the lights I used, or similar, you can order different LED size and warmth/colour from various sellers, I also found ones with the jack plug connector so I could add an AC power adaptor to them and do away with batteries.

Remember the strips can be cut to any length in multiples of 3 LEDs - you just need to solder two connections to the flexible circuit board/strip wherever you did the previous cut, you don't need to do anything at the other end of the length.

edited to add the link on I forgot!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5M-5050-SMD-3 ... SwARZXo2eN

 

[Walney Col]

I don't know about you but I can't print anything larger then A4.

Yes you can.

Bigprint, I use it all the time. https://woodgears.ca/bigprint/

Col.

 

[Walney Col]

I was wondering how you decided how many LEDs to use Barry. I'm currently working on this:-

It's approx 2ft tall and 2ft wide and I fancy lighting every aperture from inside with pretty dim (or variable brightness) LEDs and was curious as to wether you could used more or less than the full number of LEDs that come in a length. Have you ever tried using less than the full number?

Col.

 

[gilljc]

Aggrajag, sounds like you have ordered the same pack as I did, I opted for A4 as I thought the size would suit me better, but can enlarge using easyphotoprint or just by enlarging it in sections on my printer, bit fiddly but it works. I ordered a pack of four sets of led lights 20 on a 3.5 foot wire attached to two button batteries, £8.19 for the set, they get pretty good reviews, so will see....
Bodgerbaz, thanks for the translation, it's a big help and for the wee burst of enthusiasm again =D>

 

[technium]

Looks good mate, my wife loves these at Christmas bless her.

Do you guys have a link to the 120 packs youve ordered and I will see if the wife is interested.

 

[Aggrajag]

In the pub and pineappled. Hope this is right: http://vod.ebay.de/vod/FetchOrderDetail ... 9839705005

 

[technium]

In the pub and pineappled. Hope this is right: http://vod.ebay.de/vod/FetchOrderDetail ... 9839705005

That link takes me to a login page

 

[Aggrajag]

You'll need to login to eBay, UK or otherwise.

 

[technium]

You'll need to login to eBay, UK or otherwise.

Logged in and get this error

Sorry , but you are involved either as buyers or as sellers in this transaction . Only the buyer or seller can access this page .

thanks

Colin

 

[bodgerbaz]

I was wondering how you decided how many LEDs to use Barry. I'm currently working on this:-

It's approx 2ft tall and 2ft wide and I fancy lighting every aperture from inside with pretty dim (or variable brightness) LEDs and was curious as to wether you could used more or less than the full number of LEDs that come in a length. Have you ever tried using less than the full number?

Col.

I didn't really have to make a decision on how many lights. The mini wire LEDs that I bought only came in two versions. Either 10 LEDs (80 cm long) or 20 LEDs (135 cm long). I didn't think 10 LEDs would be enough so bought the 20 LED one. Incidentally, the distance between each LED is approx 5.5 cm.

Because the wire connecting the LEDs is so fine its easy to bend and loop it to fit fit the shape of your pattern. I help everything in place with spots of glue from a hot-glue gun. It dry quickly but does require some clean-up afterwards because it gets a bit 'stringy'.

I think I mentioned earlier that because I was using very thin ply I had to put a small piece of aluminium tape behind each LED because the light shone through the wood as a pink circle.

Fabulous looking clock by the way. I don't think I'd have the patience to take on anything as monumental as that. The very best of luck with it.