Triton, Trend T11 or Router Lift

[Mike.C]

Tim,

How did you all get on attaching the router to the various plates?

I have been too busy on a job to set mine up yet but I have noticed that the only obvious screw fittings to fit the TRB001 to a non Triton plate are the 4 short UNC screws which hold the plastic shoe on. The ones provided are too short IMO to be of any use as connectors and 1/4" unc screws are not exactly common.

Am I missing a trick here or does everyone have longer UNC screws lying about their workshops?

Before I order my plate I would appreciate any helpful hints or tips to attach my Triton under the table, and if as Tim states the 1/4 unc are hard to find where I could buy them?

Cheers

Mike

 

[andy@trend]

Andy
Glad to hear that customers' views are taken into account. Pity about the hollow column idea...

It wouldn't be so bad if you could stand the router on its head for cutterchanging, but you can't, the cable gets in the way (unless you have it perilously close to the edge of the bench), so you have to have it on its side, and the only side you can get the spanner in is the one opposite the spout. Therefore...

It's a great pity, because so much of the rest of it is so very very good.

One more point, which perhaps you could answer. Why are so many routers (and this is true of my DW625 as well, and many others, I know) made with the cutter so far away from being concentric with the circular base? We are not talking a few thou here, sometimes it's a millimetre or more. It means you cannot rely on the edge of the base for a constant offset to a straight line, for example. My ancient Elu 117E is spot on, so I would have thought that the production problems had been ironed out years ago. It doesn't seem to me to be much to ask :?

Hi Steve,

I can't really speak for other manufacturers regarding concentricity, however, as you may be aware we treat this subject very seriously as this is often the key difference between a good and a bad job.

I am not surprised that your 177E is spot on as we worked very closely with ELU and they had a similar focus on detail.

Maybe it's the case that other manufacturers do not specialise as we do and therefore do not consider what they may see as small tolerance issues!

HTH

andy@trend

 

[Steve Maskery]

Andy,
Thank you for your response, but I think you misunderstand me!

My Trend T11 and my DW625 are both far from concentric, - it's only my 20-odd-year-old 177E that is precise in this respect!

Cheers
Steve

 

[ajbell]

Hi Mike

I bought the black phenolic woodpecker insert plate from Roger
at Woodworkers workshop which you can get pre-drilled to match the threaded mounting hole positions of the Triton base plate. Attachment
to the Triton is then simple.

The only difficult part is cutting the hole for the insert but that can
be done with a template - again you can get buy a template specific
to the woodpecker plate. (I made my own template but if I had to
do it again I think I would just buy one as they are cheap)

A technician in work got me some of the UNC screws, I can
ask him where he got them if you like.



Andy

 

[Mike.C]

Andy,

A technician in work got me some of the UNC screws, I can
ask him where he got them if you like.

Yeah Andy that would be great if you could.

Cheers

Mike

 

[nickson71]

I'd like to hear about somewhere to get the screws as well ......... as I own a triton and it will be getting fixed to a woodpecker or incra plate ......eventually

 

[Paul Chapman]

Why are so many routers (and this is true of my DW625 as well, and many others, I know) made with the cutter so far away from being concentric with the circular base? We are not talking a few thou here, sometimes it's a millimetre or more. It means you cannot rely on the edge of the base for a constant offset to a straight line, for example. My ancient Elu 117E is spot on, so I would have thought that the production problems had been ironed out years ago. It doesn't seem to me to be much to ask :?

I use one of these "square" (it's actually oblong) sub-bases http://www.trendmachinery.co.uk/guidebushes/#square_sub I find it much better, and more stable, than the router base when following a straight edge. It also takes the guide bushes so I can leave it on all the time - except when using the side fence, which is a bit of a nuisance. Pity Trend don't do an adaptor to lower the fence so you can leave the base on all the time. The only alteration I made to it was to turn it around 90 degrees (I think the standard configuration is wrong) which meant re-drilling the base. It is also a bit odd that it is made with only two fixing holes when the DeWalt 625 has three :? Didn't matter because I re-drilled it anyway but possibly something Trend might like to take on board.

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[tim]

I got mine from these guys:



http://www.a2a4.co.uk

but Ray gave me this link as well:

http://www.pts-uk.com/index.htm

I believe that Triton shouldn't expect you to fork out for four longer unusual threaded screws just to make it fit to a non Triton table. Common threads would maybe be okay but its a pain and unecessary. An extra £1 on the purchase price would more than cover it and a margin.

Cheers

Tim[/url]

 

[Steve Maskery]

Hi Paul
Yes I've heard that these are good, I just don't think they should be necessary, that's all

Cheers
Steve

 

[Paul Chapman]

Hi Paul
Yes I've heard that these are good, I just don't think they should be necessary, that's all

Cheers
Steve

Quite right. Pity so many things have gone downhill since Elu were taken over. Most of my power tools are Elu and it's true that they don't make 'em like that any more

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[ike]

Re UNC fasteners. Check your Yell for local fastener suppliers. Any of them should stock UNC. Unified fasteners should still be commonly available albeit in more limited size/length/head combinations .

Hell, if you're stuck for several, PM me the size you want and your address and I'll go scratch around for some.

Ike

 

[andy@trend]

Andy,
Thank you for your response, but I think you misunderstand me!

My Trend T11 and my DW625 are both far from concentric, - it's only my 20-odd-year-old 177E that is precise in this respect!

Cheers
Steve

Hi Steve,

Sorry I was referring to the concentricity of the cutter with the adjustable guide bush and mounting plate, I now see that you were referring to the base itself.

To be honest I would never just rely on the base as an accurate guide as a few factors can influence the result,

Accuracy of the base casting (you will notice that none are machined to a concentric tolerance, not even the old Elu's),

Wear in the bushes on the legs which can add to the problem,

I think that your Elu being Spot On is specific to your machine and not necessarily by design, whilst the base can be used as a guide it is not usually recommended to accurately follow a template.

Hope this clarifies,

Regards,

andy@trend

 

[Steve Maskery]

Andy
Thank you.
Steve

 

[PaulO]

I believe that Triton shouldn't expect you to fork out for four longer unusual threaded screws just to make it fit to a non Triton table.

I don't think you can call UNC unusual, it is the standard thread used in the US and Canada (as part of UTS). Any local fastener supplier will stock them (excluding DIY sheds).

Machine Mart will happily sell you a UNC/UNF tap and die set.

However, I agree that Triton should ship their router with longer screws.

 

[Jake]

I didn't buy any extra screws and my Triton got itself into my router table just fine. It was about three years ago, and I can't remember how - I think longer screws must have come with the router or the router plate (CMT).

 

[Mike.C]

I had no idea that I would not be able to mount the Triton under the table with the screws provided until Tim mentioned it. Every other router that I have used with a table in the past, including the Dewalt 625 and Bosch 1300, have always bolted underneath with the screws provided, maybe Triton assume you are going to use their table.

One other thing that did surprised me when I received my Triton was the lack of guide bushes because you get 7 of them with the MOF001, so if you do need them they will cost you £28 on their website.

Cheers

Mike