Scheppach HA1000 replacement - yet another dust extraction q

[Aggrajag]

Hi all,

I'm sick of my HA1000! Since I lost my job I've been doing more and more scrolling, trying to see if there's any chance of me making a living from it, and as a consequence I'm slowly going crazy because of my cheap HA1000 extractor. I do use ear defenders but still there's that continuous and still too loud drone.

It's 100mm, I've got it attached to a cyclone and it works great for clearing dust from my scrollsaw, and also the air when I wave it around afterwards with the torch test, as it has a 0.5 micron filter. It struggles with my P/T, router and tablesaw but I use those infrequently so I just do a quick clean up after.

The cyclone seems to take 99% of everything but of course I can't really tell where the finest stuff is ending up.

I've been looking extensively and I *think* the W796CF seems to be suitable, it's induction and it's rated for 8 hours continuous (the 2 hours of the W696 isn't quite enough) and the CF is the extra filter to take it to 1 micron as opposed to the default 2 microns.

However I still don't get the HVLP and LVHP(?) stuff. Is the W796CF suitable for what I need?

 

[Aggrajag]

I will add - the HA1000 manual says it's 85dB at idle and has airflow of 183m3/h. The W796CF is induction but no website or manuals state the dB. It's got 1000m3/h airflow.

 

[Aggrajag]

And I will also add that I reduce the 100mm down to 50mm before the cyclone, as that connects to most of my machines directly - they're ALL between 50mm and 36mm. The cyclone is 50mm in and out.

 

[Claymore]

I can sympathise with ya regarding dust extraction, I create tons of the stuff and although i have 2 cyclones linked to 1500w shop vacs the place is still covered in a layer (I also have my diy air filter which actually catches the fine stuff pretty good) I haven`t bought a "Proper" dust extractor as there is basically too many for sale and one claims to be brilliant but another review says it sucks or should that be doesn`t suck so I have kept putting it off but Its time to try and get sorted but what do i buy? I have a bandsaw with 100mm sockets yet the cyclone is around 50mm? why don`t they make 100mm cyclones? I basically want a fixed extractor with a very long flexible hose so i can plug it into my tools but I don`t want to deafen myself at the same time and as i like to listen to music while i work ear defenders aren`t much use.
Let me know if you come up with a solution

Cheers
Brian

 

[MattRoberts]

Hi, reducing your 100mm extractor to 50mm could well be causing problems. They're designed to work with high volumes of air (hence the 4" pipes), and starving them of 50%+ of the air volume can cause problems with the motor life. Have you tried running it without any pipes attached? I wonder if it will be quieter, as the motor isn't having to work hard to suck the air through?

You can get 100mm cyclones - unfortunately they're a lot rarer here than in the US. Cyclone Central do them, and I've also seen some on ebay.

Your cheapest option for a 100mm system is to make your own thien baffle. They're actually pretty easy to make - I made one myself and would be happy to run through the process (but there's tons of videos on YouTube)

For tools & machines that have much smaller diameters (less than 50mm) you really need an LVHP solution

 

[bigbob1]

I use a CamVac with twin motors it had 2.5" ports for lathe,Bandsaws and Scroll saw I just use 1 motor only using 2 for the Planer/thicknesser and table saw I also use a cyclone on top of a Blue 60 litre storage container the noise does get to you after a while though but I saw a good solution for reducing the noise on this forum a few days ago which I am sure would work with other units:-

camvac-noise-reduction-with-a-baffle-tube-t101116.html