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GrahamIreland

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Bought a nice bunch of old boards, but they are 65mm thick I think.

Just thought id rip them in half with a hand saw!


Tried that for about 30mins - won't work.

Besides a large bandsaw, can anyone think of a better way to cut these in half?


Thanks
 
If it's soft wood or a moderate hardwood a decent quality jigsaw with the correct blade will deal with 65mm, it won't be fast but it will get there. When I've got boards that are too big to take through the machinery I'll often use a jigsaw to break them down to more manageable sizes.

Good luck!
 
I wouldn't touch them at all until you have a project all drawn up with cutting list ready to go. Then cut to length before attempting to rip to thickness.
 
Jacob":euuattdb said:
I wouldn't touch them at all until you have a project all drawn up with cutting list ready to go. Then cut to length before attempting to rip to thickness.

^^^^ This in spades
 
A circular saw with a track (or a track saw) would be my thinking. Some saws can do 65mm, so you may be able to do it in one go, else do it in two passes.
 
What sort of saw did you use? Cross-cut handsaws are very common; rip saws are really quite rare.
Unsurorisingly, rip cuts - especially deep rip cuts - are much more successful with a rip saw!

Have a look at this thread for some more discussion on the practicalities:

deep-ripping-by-hand-t100654.html


PS - re-filing a cross-cut to a rip is not that hard to do, especially if you find a very coarse saw and don't need to change the tpi.
 
AndyT":exj7ecys said:
PS - re-filing a cross-cut to a rip is not that hard to do, especially if you find a very coarse saw and don't need to change the tpi.

Or you convert a 8 TPI cross cut to 4 TPI rip, or 6 to 3, etc.

BugBear
 
AndyT":kzudnnpe said:
PS - re-filing a cross-cut to a rip is not that hard to do, especially if you find a very coarse saw and don't need to change the tpi.

Hmm. There's a thought. Good rip saws are a lot less common than average panel saws; how about starting with a 7-8 TPI and filing away every other tooth ?

Edited to add - I see Bugbear beat me to it !
 
Thanks for the tip BB - obvious when you know it!

I only have two ripsaws - a coarse one I used in the thread just linked to, which was filed rip when I bought it, and a finer one which I re-filed to the same tooth count as it had:

IMG_3708_zpsl7nwt5ii.jpg


If I still needed a 3-4 tpi now, I'd be looking for a 6-8tpi to start with and saving the wear on my files.

The finer saws are ok for shallow rips but fill up with sawdust too soon when deeping.
 
Apologies for slow reply - yes ripping to thickness.

I bought a course hand saw at BnQ, but man it was hard work just to do a 2ft section.

Maybe a circular saw all round first then get in there with the handsaw.

I'm close to giving up on them though.
 
Theirs a dude in Lismore in Waterford that probably would have a rip toothed saw for sale .
He has quite a lot of old stuff for sale ....
Or alternatively look on Ebay.co.uk .....not ebay.ie .
under collectables ...tools and hardware .
Good luck
 
I'd be very surprised if you could buy a ripsaw at B&Q.
As I think you have found, deep ripping with a crosscut saw is not practical. With the right tool, it is.
 
Ttrees":39uak7dr said:
Theirs a dude in Lismore in Waterford
Good luck
Yes I must buy some stiff of him, I think he has chisels and gouges as well.
Just a bit hesitant to buy second hand as you don't know what life they have had.


Yes I see now my saw is 7Tpi, which is probably a bit fine for ripping like Andy said.
I guess I could break off every other tooth perhaps.
 
GrahamIreland":2d0q3mxj said:
Ttrees":2d0q3mxj said:
Theirs a dude in Lismore in Waterford
Good luck
Yes I must buy some stiff of him, I think he has chisels and gouges as well.
Just a bit hesitant to buy second hand as you don't know what life they have had.


Yes I see now my saw is 7Tpi, which is probably a bit fine for ripping like Andy said.
I guess I could break off every other tooth perhaps.

Breaking off every other tooth, will make sawing a straight line impossible, without a reset of half the teeth, which would probably snap most off!

Bod
 
GrahamIreland":10uyo69g said:
Just a bit hesitant to buy second hand as you don't know what life they have had.
Don't be. I thought the same way as well a year or two ago until I learned that, as happened in the electronics and computer industries, somewhere between 1945 and Thatcher (it varies by company), tool manufacturing went over from competing on quality to competing on how cheap the tool was, and unless you're buying new from someplace like Lie Nielson or Clifton, anything new that you buy is going to be inferior to its vintage equivalent unless it was horribly horribly abused (and I mean abused as in "smashed" like that "778 chisel plane" that's been on sale on ebay for the last six months). The basic materials won't be as good, the manufacturing tolerances won't be as tight, the craftsmanship will be absent or minimised, and so on.

Plus, "that guy in waterford" is actually pretty damn good at tool restoration. See here for an example:
disston-saws-like-buses-t100696.html
 
Square edges cut on tablesaw to capacity.flipping over end to end , rip by hand what is left in the middle, I do it all the time up to 9 in wide boards , as said cut to approx lengths first
Chris
 
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