Plough plane storage

[mu]

Hi there.
I've got some plough and rabbet planes around the shop and I would like make a decent storage for them.

The list is:
Stanley 50 *
Record 050 *
Record 044 short rod *
Record 044 long rod
Stanley 78
Record 778
Record 043 *

* with blade set

I've valued a simple shelf but don't like the unstable sloped position, probably the best thing is create a dedicate support for each one but I haven't find nothing on web.

Any suggest will really apreciated

Thank you

 

[matthewwh]

If you screw a block to the wall and drill horizontal holes in the rod positions you can just slide them in and out.

Use the top of the block as a shelf for the appropriate cutters, spare rods etc (in vertical holes perhaps?)

 

[JohnPW]

For a plough plane where you have lots of loose bits, I would keep it in a box, then put that on a shelf or in a cupboard.

 

[Derek Cohen (Perth Oz)]

You could have a box for each, but they would take up a lot of space. One I built ..

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[Trafalgar]

Simple, sliding top boxes that can be stacked or will fit well in a tool chest and not leave an odd space leftover. The Shaker candlebox form works well:

https://www.google.com/search?q=shaker+ ... =620&dpr=1

I strongly recommend against storing planes of any kind at height. A fall is practically inevitable.

 

[mu]

Thanks for your answers

If you screw a block to the wall and drill horizontal holes in the rod positions you can just slide them in and out.

That's what I thinked primarily, but it's ok only for the planes with long rods, with the short ones remain only a few mm and isn't secure.

A box for each plane, with modular sides, is securely the best option but for me is too hard, with my little time and less skill it could take eternity. Perhaps make seven box can speed up the process but is a lot of work. Yes, you can ask "what are you doing with many planes and no time?" but I won't respond :lol:
Derek your box is a dream, really great!

Today I think to build a support with a groove wide exactly like the plane sole (or skate?) and deep at least 10 mm, contact of the lateral fence will provide more support. This support could be fixed on a wall panel...

Hope you can understand my words, I should have study more english in school and I think google translate sometimes kidding me

 

[mu]

Just back from the shop with a prototype, I must add a widening around the blade for the largest one and I think is ok, the fence works like a clamp. For other models could be more complicated but with a bit of fantasy I should do it.

 

[Bluekingfisher]

Sometimes the simple solution provides the best option.

What you have done is going to keep the plane stable and easy to store.

 

[Carl P]

I like your solution - I have a similar problem, although for less planes. This weekend I shall steal your idea!

Cheerio,

Carl

 

[Derek Cohen (Perth Oz)]

I like the simple solution as well. The one fly in the ointment is that plough planes work best with a deep fence, and this will alter the compactness of a planed board to be used as above.

I have a couple of Stanley ploughs (#45, #46) with their original subfences, otherwise there is a LV and a #043 with added subfences. (The #044 in the picture has since been sold). This is how they are stored ...

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[bugbear]

Just back from the shop with a prototype, I must add a widening around the blade for the largest one and I think is ok, the fence works like a clamp. For other models could be more complicated but with a bit of fantasy I should do it.

If you added a big saw kerf at 45 degrees where the blade is, it would work beautifully, and even hold the plane in fore-aft position.

BugBear

 

[Trafalgar]

Just back from the shop with a prototype, I must add a widening around the blade for the largest one and I think is ok, the fence works like a clamp. For other models could be more complicated but with a bit of fantasy I should do it.

I can't think of a way to put this without being rude, but that's just hideous. And silly. Build a box. Even if you have to hammer it together with nails. Six pieces of wood. Make a built-up rebate joint for a drop-in lid.

Sorry, but you're owed a little candor.

I'll build one right along with you and share the step-by-step via email if you think it would help. I need to work the kinks out a rebate plane anyway. I've managed to get the yips with the thing and can't plane one square.

 

[mu]

Thanks again for your really valuable answers, everyone.

Derek I'll keep in mind the wood additions in fence. I'm pleased of your pictures, you are at very high level.

If you added a big saw kerf at 45 degrees where the blade is, it would work beautifully, and even hold the plane in fore-aft position.

Bugbear, your suggestion is really cool, I'll try surely.

I can't think of a way to put this without being rude, but that's just hideous. And silly. Build a box. Even if you have to hammer it together with nails. Six pieces of wood. Make a built-up rebate joint for a drop-in lid.

Sorry, but you're owed a little candor.

If I write question on a forum like this is to receive answer and suggestion and your is precious like others, "sorry" is totally out of place
The problem is not to nail six pieces of wood toghether but to make 42 sides with determinate size, planed try and perpendicular by hand. Probably I can afford all that work, but how many hours it take?
However also in case I'll make some boxes, supports like that I made can be part of them, don't you think?

 

[Trafalgar]

Leo, you can build a simple little box for a plow plane in about an hour or an hour and a half.

Perhaps seven plow planes is a few too many. I've fooled around with tools a bit and I am reasonably sure that there is redundant facility represented by seven of them.

Rome wasn't built in a day. Maybe start with one and finish it. Then move on to number two, etc. etc. And, maybe thinning the herd makes sense.

 

[mu]

...
And, maybe thinning the herd makes sense.

You are right, but after all they don't eat so much

Anyway, you're convincing me to build that boxes :wink:

 

[Vann]

I made a bunch of boxes for storing some of my herd. I've probably made 15 to 20 such boxes in differring heights and two lengths.

No fancy dovetails, just glued and nailed. Made from bits of scrap timber (I had to buy the ply for tops and bottoms ). They stack...

...with the help of two cleats on the base that locate within the depression at the top on the box below.

Slide on lids (made the grooves with the 043)

One design fault: I didn't allow enough depth for the user made fence that one came with, so the fence lays loose in the box #-o

Cheers, Vann.

 

[Trafalgar]

Love 'em. They strike just the right chord with me. Not overwrought, overdesigned, or pretentious in any way. Frankly lovely in all respects. What an incredible sense of style with just the right amount of restraint.

 

[bugbear]

I made a bunch of boxes for storing some of my herd. I've probably made 15 to 20 such boxes in differring heights and two lengths.

Ah the joys of real design and the inevitability of compromise - any of the individual boxes could be a better and neater fit for the particular plane and attachments it contains.

But then they wouldn't stack.

So whilst the individual boxes would be better, the boxes as a group would be worse.

BugBear

 

[mu]

Thank you Vann, your photo are really helpful

 

[bugbear]

Thank you Vann, your photo are really helpful

BTW, where did you get your Avatar image?

It's really elegant.

BugBear