odd trademark

[Yorkshire Sam]

Picked up a firmer chisel with what I thought was a marples trademark .. the name is readable cant make out the first or last but has a trademark of what looks like a screw rather than the shamrock ... am I reading the name wrong or was there another Marples trading with this trademark?

Anyone shed a little light??

 

[DuncanA]

I've got a chisel with a screw stamped on it and the text reads "Charles Taylor, Sheffield Tools", could that be what yours says? If you'd like I can sort out a photo to see if they match.

 

[AndyT]

This really needs a picture! It's time to explore the macro settings on your camera.

And can you clarify what name you are reading? Give us the blanks as if it was a crossword clue - or just a picture!

 

[Yorkshire Sam]

I've got a chisel with a screw stamped on it and the text reads "Charles Taylor, Sheffield Tools", could that be what yours says? If you'd like I can sort out a photo to see if they match.

Had a closer look at the chisel and you are right. The front letters are very indistinct and I took the the first letter and 'saw' marples even though I knew it wasnt thier trademark.... good call. heres the phot to prove it.

 

[caroleb]

Hi Wizard, et al.
Think I would call that a bevel edge, rather than a firmer. I have, however, seen a few of these listed recently; is there a pattern for a firmer with a bevel edge? Is it just that they are heftier built, thus firmer? I thought a firmer was square sided, similar to a mortice chisel, to allow registration in the cut and to make said chisel , well, firmer?
Am I missing something (other than 'Predator')?

It looks like a rather nice chisel, either way. Certainly over 80 years old if the tang is anything to go by.

Caz

 

[DuncanA]

I think strictly speaking it's a bevel-edged firmer chisel. According to one of my books there are three main categories of chisel: firmer, paring and mortice. I think partly calling it a bevel-edged firmer just means it's not a paring chisel and so is a little stouter and more versatile compared to a thin bevel-edged chisel for paring.

I'm sure there's more to it than that, I can remember reading something else about it but I can't remember what it said or where!

 

[AndyT]

For a long rambling discussion about bevel edged chisels, with some digressions off topic but also some bits of historical evidence, you could try this thread:

https://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/tool-history-when-was-the-bevel-edged-chisel-born-t67711.html