No. 77 Saw Set Anvil Angle

[J_SAMa]

I'm in search of a saw set that will put a very small amount of set (less than 0.2 mm per side) on saws 10 TPI and above. The older Eclipse with small hammers seems fine (the ones partially painted red). What is the angle of the anvil and striking face of the hammer? I imagine I'll need something as low as 15 degrees. I've been looking for a Stanley 42X but so far no luck...
Please, would any of you who own an old eclipse saw set measure the set angle?

Also, how do you get a small set on larger rip saws? I'm guessing hammer-anvil style set isn't an option as You'll need a super low angle for that...
Sam

 

[Cheshirechappie]

One way to get less set on larger saws using the Eclipse or similar is just to 'dial down' the anvil to a lower tpi setting than the saw actually is. So for a 4 1/2 tpi saw, set the anvil to about 8 tpi, try setting a few teeth at the heel end of the saw, and see what it looks like.

 

[bugbear]

I regound the plunger (easy) and anvil (less easy) on an Eclipse to give a smaller angle, for small set as you say.

I also narrowed the plunger to work on smaller teeth.

The plunger is hardened, I think.


Edit; discussed (with diagrams) in a good old thread:

post492865.html?hilit=%20eclipse%20angle#p492865

BugBear

 

[AndyT]

I just looked over that thread from three years ago. Sam, I think it will answer your question!

And BB, you either have an excellent memory or excellent research skills.

No, scrub that, I think we all know you have both!

 

[J_SAMa]

Is the angle on the older No. 77 different than on the newer ones? BB does that old thread talk about a newer one or older one?
Also about how long did it take to grind the anvil down to 13 degrees?

Cheshirechappie, isn't it bad to have too little of the teeth bent? I heard the set should start somewhere around half way up the teeth.

Sam

 

[Andy RV]

I can't help you with the angles but you can now by an 'eclipse' setting tool with a fine anvil http://www.axminster.co.uk/somax-no-250 ... ing-pliers