Kity Bestcombin 2000 Planer setup query

[Taxus55]

Just acquired a 2nd hand Bestcombi. Neither the planer infeed nor the outfeed bed appear to be level - they both rise towards the cutter. I can not work out how to adjust them. Any advice gratefully received.

Also, the adjustment knob on the outfeed table is very stiff and appears not to adjust the infeed table very much at all - certainly not by any amount that can be measured on the tiny scale fixed next to the cutter itself. Looking at the mechanism, I can not work out how the adjuster is supposed to work; the infeed table seems to be firmly bolted to the chassis with no visible means of movement. Again, an advice gratefully received.

And if anyone knows where one can obtain a user/maintenance/parts manual that would be great!

Barry

 

[jasonB]

To adjust the tables you need to get at the three bolts either side of the brackets that hold the tables (not the button heads on the top). To do that you wil need to get inside the main base and undo the two lengths of angle that hold the planner to the base. You also need to undo the ten or so M6 bolts that hold the planner to its base. You can then slide it out enough to access the bolts on the saw side.

Infeed adjustment is firm but you should be able to see the pointer move along the scale when turning the knob at the side of the INFEED table. It won't drop if the extractor shoot is tight up against the underside so lower the thicknesser table a bit and it should wind down. There is no up-down adjustment on the outfeed

Manual is not really worth having.

J

 

[Taxus55]

Hi Jason
Thanks for info.
I have had a look at the unit - tipping it on its side to see inside the base, but I can not see the 2 lengths of angle you refer to. All I can see is 3 x 10mm bolts on either end of the planer (in plain sight) and I think what are 2 locating pins that go up from the base unit into the front edge of the planer framework at the bottom (they do not have bolt heads showing in the base unit). I slackened off all 6 bolts but the unit is still very solidly attached - which makes me think I might not be seeing the angle fittings you refer to. Could you possibly give a bit more detail as to where they are located?

As for the infeed adjustment, it is a mystery to me how it works. There is a crown and pinion gear which turns a horizontal shaft which is threaded at both ends. One end (towards the infeed end) is restrained by nuts around the frame; the other end is threaded and goes into an angle iron fitted under the infeed table. However, all it seems to do is screw into/out of the angle iron without moving it (and the attached infeed table). The table is clearly firmly bolted to the frame with 3 x 13mm bolts on either side and I cannot for the life of me work out how it could possible move. Whatever, I am not seeding any movement on the pointer.

Point taken about the manual!

Do you have any suggestion on where to obtain spares? There are one of two minor fittings that are missing which would be good to have e.g. distal locking pin for the fence, flip-over stop guide.

Thanks
Barry.

 

[Racers]

You might have to remove the planer to adjust it, I had to on mine it's a job for two people.

Pete

 

[Taxus55]

Pete,
Tanks for the input. Any tips on removing the planer?It looks like it should be pretty straightforward with the 6 visible bolts to undo and a couple of locating pins for the unit to be lifted over - but having released the 6 bolts it is still absolutely rigid on the chassis. I must be missing something.

Barry

 

[Racers]

Hi Barry

Yes just the 6 bolts, but you will need to get inside to the other side of them!
I had a bit of trouble levelling up the planer with the saw table but I was doing it on my own.
Check the gap between the infield table and saw table for a clog mine gets full of sawdust and affects the adjustment.

Pete

ps one plug for the motor and safety switch.

 

[jasonB]

I'll take some pictures this afternoon

J

 

[jasonB]

No need to turn things on their side or for more than one person. As I said before you need to gain access from the main saw/spindle base so take off the side panel below the sliding table track and you will see the two angles that I refered to.

Undo the six M8 nuts & bolts and you may also need to remove any cable clips. I have marked them in red but its a bit faint

Now go round to the planner side and undo the ten M6 bolts, 5 each side, some have nuts. again marked in red

You can now slide the planner away from the main saw/spindle base. move it about 6" and it will stay balanced on its smaller base.

The bolts at the sides of the table slides allow a small amount of adjustment of the tables, 3 each side of each table.

The infeed adjuster works as you say via a pair of bevel gears, the shaft that is inline with the feed is hollow and tapped to take a threaded rod which locates in the table. As the gear turns the shaft it will screw in or out moving the table as it goes. Because the table is mounted on sloping guides as it moves in/out it will also move up/down to a lesser degree depending an the angle of the guides. If yours is not moving then either its clogged up with dry oil/sawdust or one of the threads is stripped.

Not the easiest to see the scale but it shows up better in the last half when I wind the table back up

http://youtu.be/RMiahD7PFCY

 

[Taxus55]

Hi Barry

Yes just the 6 bolts, but you will need to get inside to the other side of them!
I had a bit of trouble levelling up the planer with the saw table but I was doing it on my own.
Check the gap between the infield table and saw table for a clog mine gets full of sawdust and affects the adjustment.

Pete

ps one plug for the motor and safety switch.

Hi Pete
Yes, I realised too late that the bottom 2 bolts are not on captive nuts so I have managed to lose one nut into the bowels of the machine; doubtless i will find it in due course! Do you recall if there are 2 locating pins at the front (below the morise chuck) to locate the planer on the base? After that I guess once the 6 bolts are undone it is just a case of brute force to get the planer out of the unit?

Yes, I noticed the sawdust between the planer and sawtable and could see how this could affect the alignment. In my case the infeed table is sloping away from the cutters down to the leading edge of the infeed table AND, if I project a straight edge off the saw table (assuming this is level) it is sloping across the bed of the infeed table as well. I am suprised the previous owner managed to get anything planed at all.

Re the safety switch: (I assume you mean the micro-switch on the underside of the infeed table?) the unit runs without this being engaged by the chip-collector. So, not sure what if anything the switch actually does!

Barry.

 

[Taxus55]

No need to turn things on their side or for more than one person. As I said before you need to gain access from the main saw/spindle base so take off the side panel below the sliding table track and you will see the two angles that I refered to.

Undo the six M8 nuts & bolts and you may also need to remove any cable clips. I have marked them in red but its a bit faint

Now go round to the planner side and undo the ten M6 bolts, 5 each side, some have nuts. again marked in red

You can now slide the planner away from the main saw/spindle base. move it about 6" and it will stay balanced on its smaller base.

The bolts at the sides of the table slides allow a small amount of adjustment of the tables, 3 each side of each table.

The infeed adjuster works as you say via a pair of bevel gears, the shaft that is inline with the feed is hollow and tapped to take a threaded rod which locates in the table. As the gear turns the shaft it will screw in or out moving the table as it goes. Because the table is mounted on sloping guides as it moves in/out it will also move up/down to a lesser degree depending an the angle of the guides. If yours is not moving then either its clogged up with dry oil/sawdust or one of the threads is stripped.

Not the easiest to see the scale but it shows up better in the last half when I wind the table back up

Jason
Brilliant - thanks. Piccies are far easier to understand!

I think my bolts are in a slightly different place, but I get the gist. I will have a look this evening and let you know how I get on. I also think my adjustment mechanism is compromised; maybe a bit of engineering required.....

Thanks again
Barry.

 

[Racers]

Hi Barry

I can't remember, it was a good few years ago, I remember having problems lining the tops up so I don't thing there are any alignment pins.

Pete

 

[Taxus55]

Hi Barry

I can't remember, it was a good few years ago, I remember having problems lining the tops up so I don't thing there are any alignment pins.

Pete

Hi Pete,
More or less sorted - got it off, at any rate. Just got to get things trued up.
Thanks for the input.
Barry