Deft Table Saw arbor size, and dado sets

[Jona]

Hi all,

I recently picked up a Deft on eBay after sending back the disappointing iTech 01332. I was interested in the new Harvey from Woodford Tooling, but as Roy informed me that the next consignment is all sold out, I went for the second hand Deft, under the impression that it is essentially the same saw.

The manual states that the arbor is 30mm, but now I've taken the blade out I find that it's actually 5/8"! This is slightly annoying as I will need reducing bushes for the additional blades which came with the saw. Worse though, I have already bought the dado set from Woodford which has a 30mm bore, so that will have to go back unless I want to put bushes in both blades and all four chippers...

Other than the incompatibility I am not too concerned about the smaller arbor, it seems to perform very well judging by my test cuts. I am curious though, did all Defts have a 5/8" and do the newer Harvey/Excaliburs actually have 30mm?

Secondly, can anyone recommend a source for a dado set with a 5/8" bore?

Thanks

 

[MikeJhn]

Hi all,

I have already bought the dado set from Woodford which has a 30mm bore, so that will have to go back unless I want to put bushes in both blades and all four chippers...

Thanks

Surly one bush 5/8" bore with an o/d of 30mm just short of the total thickness of the stack will do

Mike

 

[Harbo]

I've got a Deft but not a Dado set but will check.
The saw is similar to the Laguna Platinum sold in the States.

http://m.lagunatools.com/?url=http%3A%2 ... rrer=#2607

It does say ⅝ in the blurb.

Rod

 

[The Bear]

My cabinet saw is american so too has the a 5/8th arbour as is pretty standard over there. Few years a go but I bought all my blades when in America. Do you know anyone who goes there? Or any american woodwork supplier who is willing to ship to the UK (Rockler for example always have done but only just started advertising the fact)

Mark

 

[Jona]

I don't think the long bush solution is a goer Mike, as it wouldn't allow the width of the stack to be adjusted. If the stack ends up narrower than the bush is long then the nut won't tighten, and if it's wider then a blade might slip.

I'll probably just get a whole bunch of standard bushes, it's a pain but not really that expensive, especially as the Woodford dado set is such good value (£79.99 + free delivery on ebay).

 

[MikeJhn]

Forget where I saw it, but I remember a chap on U-Tube putting piece's of cycle inner tube between his dado blade's and chippers to prevent slipping, as to the bush I expect you will be using the dado in only two or three different widths, in which case a set of bushes would work, save having six to contend with.

Mike

 

[Tortion-Stephen]

Freud do an 8" dado with a 5/8 bore and the 'Diablo' red coated blades, I have one for my small Xcalibur saw and it gives a fantastic cut.

 

[Jona]

Update:

I ended up ordering a load of bushes from Axminster, which have now arrived. I tried fitting them to my blades, to find that all but one of them pushed straight through with very little resistance! I measured the bushes with digital callipers, and they come up at a consistent 29.97- not close enough for a tight fit I guess.

The exception was on one of the outer blades of the dado set, which did need a tap with a dead blow, but I put this down to a small bore on the blade as all other blades I tried were loose.

It turns out that Woodford offer a set of 12 for £18, so I've ordered those now. I've got a ripping blade on back order from Axminster and another specialist blade coming from Germany, so hopefully between the two lots of bushes I can use all blades then send back what I don't need... what a faff though! Fingers crossed.

 

[memzey]

Would it not be easier to send the dado stack back to Woodford and buy one with a suitable bore? I have a Freud super dado set for my 5/8ths machine and it works a treat.

 

[Jona]

Maybe easier, but certainly not cheaper. I can only find the Freud set on Amazon for £109.99, plus a whopping £51.99 postage! Double the cost of the Woodford set.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Freud-8in-Stac ... B0000223O9

Rutlands do a set for a mere £400:

http://www.rutlands.co.uk/sp+woodworkin ... est+dk6560

...and that's about all I can find. Unless anyone here can point me to another supplier?

Granted I didn't think it would be such a problem finding bushes to fit, or indeed that they would even be necessary, but for now I'd rather be able to use the set I have.

 

[MikeJhn]

Be less expensive to buy a Lathe and turn up some bush's yourself. :lol:

Mike

 

[MikeJhn]

Another thought is to take out the 5/8" Arbor and get a machine shop to turn up a 30mm one for you, then the problem has gone forever.

Mike

 

[Jona]

Quite!

Or indeed, to import from the US myself, which it appears is all that the Amazon seller is doing anyway.

The other factor is the 8 sheets of ply sitting in my workshop waiting to be turned into cabinets, which I do not want to still be there in 2017!

 

[Fitzroy]

My table-saw has a 5/8" arbour, vintage beast by Tyzak, the last saw blade I bought came with a set of bushes, one of which was the correct size. Was I just lucky? It was the first blade I've ever bought so assumed they must all come with a set of bushes.

edit: reading around it seems I was lucky with my Titan blade from screwfix , Axminster blades don't come with bushes but they do sell them, 30mm to 5/8" bushes are £1.75.

 

[memzey]

The saws I've bought for my machine have all been 5/8ths bore but I've had to pay a premium for them and often wondered whether a bushing washer on a 30mm bore blade would be ok. Can anyone with experience of both types of saw (bushed and non-bushed) say whether using a bushing washer has a detrimental effect?

 

[MikeJhn]

Use bushing washers all the time on my sliding mitre and table saw, does not seem to make a difference, can't see it would be much different on any table saw.

Mike