mind_the_goat":3pbej68m said:
Yorkshire Sam":3pbej68m said:
No dire threats, no armageddon just a plain statement of facts
Geez, I've never seen such a blatant piece of propaganda, So 1 minute in we see riots and a what looks like a Nazi rally. No scaremongering there. Did you really watch this and not feel you were being manipulated ?
This has just reinforced my view that we need to stay in, the outers have nothing but this?
Ok SO apart from the theatrics (which was not theatrics at all but actual footage of the unrest caused by the economic strife in the euruzone, particularly greece); what else about the video did you find as "fake" or "not based on sound theory" or even "it all looks a bit iffy to me" ?
Please state your case. Properly, with long words and facts to back it up.
Somehow I really doubt you watched all of it because any sane person with any level of education and grasp on economics, even at a very fundamental level cannot fail to see the example used of switzerland being the - pay attention here -
wealthiest per capita of NORMAL, EVERYDAY people not just the 1%,
healthiest,
employed and generally content nation ON EARTH, not just the eurozone.
There's a reason why Switzerland is seen as the best education system on earth, it's just not much talked about because unless you are stupidly rich, a Stephen Hawking genius or connected you have zero chance of getting in, getting a chance to go to space is easier for a foreign national.
And all because - wait for it - they have been outside the EU for the entire time.
Now before you start on the fact that they remained neutral in the war, so did a lot of other countries who were / are not doing as well as them, although I agree it did them no harm to speak of, but if you go by growth of an economy since the war, Germany, China and Japan have us all beat hands down and as is stated in the vid they were the losers of those conflicts, with sections of their manufacturing and industry utterly riven.
There are other factors of course, they only have a small standing army (the rest are sitting down, boom boom), and they decline to get involved with other expensive conflicts, but the single biggest drain on the UK's foreign policy is the money paid to the eurozone for scant little return.
The figures of cost vs reward are scandalous, and if more people knew there would be no debate, it would be unanimous by all people whom are generationally rooted in the UK. I won't mention the details, as you won't beleive me - so look them up for yourselves.
If you have children of any ages under 60, you need to vote out or you will be shackling them to a crucifix to carry for the remainder of their lives and their childrens and possibly childrens, childrens.
Mind the Goat - ignore the "theatrics" and just pay attention to the facts - the actual facts - they are easy to obtain and even the remainders cannot refute them.
Find the most intelligent person you know and ask him / her or, failing that - ask your children if you have any, what their choice is and vote the same way, back them up regardless of how YOU feel, because if you don't, it won't be YOU paying the price, will it?
Jacob":3pbej68m said:
MMUK":3pbej68m said:
So much for the outcome of WW2. Who says the Nazi party is dead? Seig Heil Merkel! The Germans are at it again, trying to unite Europe!
But they weren't doing it democratically. The Poles didn't have a referendum on whether or not to be invaded and they didn't have a two year opt out option.
Germany is a very different and a very civilised place nowadays.
The best way to invade a country now? make the natives think it was their choice; it's cheaper and more effective. 90% of the population of USA doesn't even know that 1/3 of it's country is owned by the "commie chinks" (as how the redblooded, all american, sports loving patriot would put it), and the 10% that do, hide the fact as best they can because they know, they
KNOW it'll come back one day and cripple them. Permanently.
There was a sentence used recently in a Political drama program called "Madam Secretary" (highly recommended) where she (the Secretary of State) was talking to the chinese envoy about a possible war with China and he replied: "War? we don't need to go to war .... we will just reposess you".
Now what you might ask has this to do with the eurozone, and it's simple; if a group or country not democractically chosen by us is making the rules and laws we have to abide by or face prison (or has in USA's case another force in play of "you do what we tell you or else"), we are under thier control; annexed by proxy.
How much simpler can it be stated before those that think the eurozone is a good idea will learn it's a fatal mistake?
