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Lonsdale73

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Saw this and was wondering if it could be achieved with a spindle or bowl gouge or would it need a specific carving gouge?
 

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Barley twists can be made with some careful marking out and either a carving chisel or even a round file/rasp.

Not sure if you wanted to put a picture up as there was nothing there
 

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I used to make them on a trend router lathe, wish i had kept it now as it was a unique tool that produced excellent results.
 

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Stuart Mortimer is the man for barley twists, not just for candle sticks & finials but for eggs & complete hollow forms.
- http://stuartmortimer.s411.sureserver.com/

IIRC he marks out the twist, cuts down the centre of the twist (or twists) with a tenon saw & widens the cut with a flat chisel (may be a gouge - can't remember) before resorting to rasps or files & finally long strips of abrasive pulled backwards & forwards over each twist.

Edit: Later posts indicate a small plane rather than a chisel ... which rings a faint bell.
Edit 2: Ignore earlier edit. Having found the Youtube videos, he uses a gouge kept specifically for the job but states that a bowl gouge with a suitable grind would be acceptable.
Links in later post.
 

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We made them at school.....used a saw, plane, chisels, round file and sandpaper.

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I have a couple of Legacy Ornamental wood turning lathes and can do a lot more than just barley twists.
I started with a Trend router lathe and I got well and truly hooked !!!??
If interested let me know. I am 85 so soon be selling up.
 

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timber":v2k774dh said:
I have a couple of Legacy Ornamental wood turning lathes and can do a lot more than just barley twists.
I started with a Trend router lathe and I got well and truly hooked !!!??
If interested let me know. I am 85 so soon be selling up.
Take it you didn't have any joy selling the Trend?
 

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Lonsdale73":3r7niuzz said:
timber":3r7niuzz said:
I have a couple of Legacy Ornamental wood turning lathes and can do a lot more than just barley twists.
I started with a Trend router lathe and I got well and truly hooked !!!??
If interested let me know. I am 85 so soon be selling up.
Take it you didn't have any joy selling the Trend?
The Trend went a long while ago. The Legacy Lathes can do so much more.Such as fluting planing and quite a lot more. The Trend could do a spiral but was very limited .
 

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Lonsdale73":1hhcc1h9 said:
timber":1hhcc1h9 said:
I have a couple of Legacy Ornamental wood turning lathes and can do a lot more than just barley twists.
I started with a Trend router lathe and I got well and truly hooked !!!??
If interested let me know. I am 85 so soon be selling up.
Take it you didn't have any joy selling the Trend?
I have a Trend which I could be persuaded to part with.
Brian
 

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So, getting back to the original question, can a spindle or bowl gouge be used akin to what is seen in the video or is that tool a specifically for carving gouge?
 

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I think the carving gouge is the way to go but why not try your spindle gouge. If it doesn't work to your satisfaction you can get the carving gouge. If you want to play with surface texturing you'll be able to get more use from the gouge.

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The problem with turning tools even though they are sharp they are nowhere near as sharp as carving chisels so it would make harder work of it unless you want to spend ages getting them razor-sharp.
Better off getting the microplane as Doug suggested
 

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Robbo3":1nzqok1m said:
Stuart Mortimer is the man for barley twists, not just for candle sticks & finials but for eggs & complete hollow forms.
- http://stuartmortimer.s411.sureserver.com/

IIRC he marks out the twist, cuts down the centre of the twist (or twists) with a tenon saw & widens the cut with a flat chisel (may be a gouge - can't remember) before resorting to rasps or files & finally long strips of abrasive pulled backwards & forwards over each twist.

Edit: Later posts indicate a small plane rather than a chisel ... which rings a faint bell.
Just found one of his videos on yt. Got as far as the marking out bit and found myself wondering "HTF does he do that?" Replayed it several times and still marvelling at it. Likely to do so for several more times afore moving on to part 2!
 

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Beat me to it Andy, I was just about to post a link to that!
 

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Andy, could you kindly post links to the other 2 Richard Findley videos for those of us that aren't on Instagram.

Lonsdale73":2qllv671 said:
Just found one of his videos on yt. Got as far as the marking out bit and found myself wondering "HTF does he do that?" Replayed it several times and still marvelling at it. Likely to do so for several more times afore moving on to part 2!
Stuart Mortimer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5kKJpR9xSI
1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-wWjlAtTw
2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GSvMlaj4J8
3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elwKX6ySJTI
4 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrdv7O91L7k
5 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PjLJFYekos
 

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Robbo3":3tingc4m said:
Andy, could you kindly post links to the other 2 Richard Findley videos for those of us that aren't on Instagram.

Lonsdale73":3tingc4m said:
Just found one of his videos on yt. Got as far as the marking out bit and found myself wondering "HTF does he do that?" Replayed it several times and still marvelling at it. Likely to do so for several more times afore moving on to part 2!
Stuart Mortimer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5kKJpR9xSI
1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-wWjlAtTw
2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GSvMlaj4J8
3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elwKX6ySJTI
4 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrdv7O91L7k
5 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PjLJFYekos
Is it just me or are parts 4 and 5 identical?
 
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