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DUNK_WALES

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Hi all,

I'm looking to buy a new lathe and have pretty much narrowed my options down to Records new Envoy or Regent and the Axminster AT406.

I am keen to seek feedback from those who either own these models or may have either been lucky enough to have seen or used both to compare build quality etc.

I will primarily will be turning bowls so the option to rotate the headstock and turn outbound or the capacity to mount a lower bed extrnsion to the tail stock end is a must.

My budget is in the region of 2k so if anyone can suggest somthing i may habe missed with similer capacities I would welcome.e the suggestions.

Thank you all in advance.
 

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I have also been looking at the Twister FU-180 however the Twisters capacities are slightly less which is putting me off this one
 

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I have said for a number of years that the Record Maxi is the best value in this class of lathe even though the price has risen by £200 .

Coronet Envoy

Price £1600
Maximum bowl diameter: 1000 mm (39”)
Maximum between centres: 610 mm (24”)
Maximum swing over bed: 410 mm (16”)
Spindle speeds: 250 - 3800 rpm
Motor input P1: 1.5 kW
Motor output P2: 1.1 kW
Thread: M33 x 3.5
Taper: 2 Morse taper
Weight: 140 kg
Dimensions L1435 x D540 x H1210 mm

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Coronet Regent

Price £2000
Maximum bowl diameter: 1000 mm (39”)
Maximum between centres: 610 mm (24”)
Maximum swing over bed: 460 mm (18”)
Spindle speeds: 250 - 3800 rpm
Motor input P1: 2 kW
Motor output P2: 1.5 kW
Thread: M33 x 3.5
Taper: 2 Morse taper
Weight: 145 kg
Dimensions L 1475 x D540 x H1235 mm

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Record Maxi

Price £2200
Maximum bowl diameter: 762 mm (30")
Maximum between centres: 950 mm (37")
Maximum swing over bed: 533 mm (21")
Spindle speeds: 50 - 3850 rpm
Motor input P1: 1.6 kW
Motor: 1.5 hp
Motor output P2: 1.1 kW
Thread: M33 x 3.5
Weight 231 kg
Dimensions W1640 x D545 x H1270 mm

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Axminster AT350WL (Trade)

Price £900
Max Diameter over Bed 350 mm
Distance Between Centres 400 mm
Lathe Speed 0 - 800 / 0 - 1,750 / 0 - 3,600 rpm (var)
Nett Weight 41 kg
Power 750 W
Spindle Thread M33 x 3.5 mm (T38)
Headstock Taper 2 MT
Tailstock Taper 2 MT
Tool Post Diameter 25.4 mm (1")
Overall L x W x H 830 mm x 330 mm x 430 mm

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Axminster AT406WL (Trade)

Price £1600
Max Diameter over Bed 406 mm
Distance Between Centres 710 mm
Speeds 50 - 1,250 / 150 - 3,750 rpm (var)
Nett Weight 96 kg
Power 1.5 kW
Spindle Thread M33 x 3.5 mm (T38)
Headstock Taper 2 MT
Tailstock Taper 2 MT
Tool Post Diameter 25.4 mm (1")
Overall L x W x H 1,650 mm x 480 mm x 550 mm

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Axminster 508WL (Trade)

Price £3000
Max Diameter over Bed 508 mm
Max Diameter 900 mm using bed extension mounted on stand
Distance Between Centres 762 mm or 1,262 mm with bed extension
Lathe Speed 60-1,200 / 100-2,200 / 140-3,700 rpm (var)
Nett Weight 280 kg
Power 2.2 kW
Voltage 230 V
Headstock Taper 2 MT
Tailstock Taper 2 MT
Spindle Thread M33 x 3.5 mm (T38)
Tool Post Diameter 30 mm
Overall L x W x H 1,850 mm (+ 520 mm with bed ext) x 560 mm (+ 330 mm with bed ext) x 1,230 mm

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Jet 1640 EVS

Price £1940 (Normally £2,559.50)
Max Diameter over Bed 420 mm
Distance Between Centres 1,016 mm
Lathe Speed 40-1,200 / 120-3,200 rpm (var)
Nett Weight 170 kg
Power 1.12 kW
Voltage 230v
Headstock Taper 2 MT
Tailstock Taper 2 MT
Spindle Thread M33 x 3.5 mm (T38)
Tool Post Diameter 25.4 mm (1")
Overall L x W x H 1,855 mm x 1,335 mm x 510 mm

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Jet 1840 EVS

Price £2195 (Normally £2,909.50)
Max Diameter over Bed 470 mm
Distance Between Centres 1,016 mm
Lathe Speed 40-1,200 / 120-3,200 rpm (var)
Nett Weight 188 kg
Power 1.5 kW
Voltage 230 V
Headstock Taper 2 MT
Tailstock Taper 2 MT
Spindle Thread M33 x 3.5 mm (T38)
Tool Post Diameter 25.4 mm (1")
Overall L x W x H 1,854 mm x 1,334 mm x 508 mm

Edited to add 2 Jet lathes.
 

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I had considered the Maxi, but originally discounted it as I felt it may be slightly outdated to some of the competitors., but I could be wrong
 

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I've edited my above post to include the two Jet lathes suggested by phil.p
 

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DUNK_WALES":2454spsv said:
Hi all,

I'm looking to buy a new lathe and have pretty much narrowed my options down to Records new Envoy or Regent and the Axminster AT406.
Hi, Just wondering if you made a decision on which lathe to buy and if so, are you happy with it. I'm looking at the same lathes and can't decide which way to jump. :?
 

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Hi, I am also thinking of upgrading my lathe, I currently have a Record CL2.

I am also thinking about a Coronet Regent/Envoy, Axminster AT406WL or Stratos Fusion 230.

Record Regent has 2Kw motor with 1.5Kw at the spindle, the others only claim 1.5Kw, so I assume this is at the motor?

The Record Regent has 18" swing same as Fusion, but more than At406WL at 16", so Regent seems the best buy as it is slightly cheaper, or am I missing something.

Not much written about Record Envoy/Regent so hard to tell.
 

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I ended up buying a Jet lathe and I like it a lot but if I were to choose from the ones you have mentioned I would probably go for the Envoy and spend the difference on either tools or accessories etc. I'd have like to have seen the Stratos 230 in the flesh but with lockdown it wasn't possible. I was drawn to the Stratos for a few reasons but mostly because of the customer service and support provided by either of the UK stockists. In the end the deal I got on the Jet lathe was too good to pass up.
 

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Dunk
why not just buy a Union Graduate......always get ur money back and it'smade well......
transport really isnt an issue.....
there was2 for sale in Stockport......
 

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Sold my last lathe before a house move (that ended up taking nearly two years!) and had plenty of time to consider what I would replace it with once settled.

I was not impressed with the build quality/finish of the Axminster models I saw in their showrooms and had settled on the Record Maxi. Also the after sales service from Axi seems to have taken a nose dive recently? Then Record brought out the Envoy and Regent and I was sorely tempted but found that there was insufficient information about them (ie downloadable manuals) for me to be comfortable committing to the spend.

In the end by the time we finally settled in our new home, I was able to make the budget stretch to the Stratos FU-230 with extension bed etc. So far this has exceeded my expectations and I am just loving it!
 
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