Winder Staircase problems with design

[Stormer1940]

Hi,

I have had someone ask me to build a winder staircase for them. The problem is that they want handrail and spindles on the right hand string. Please se attached images.

Problem 1 - No supporting wall for eased outside (Usually wall string)

Problem 2 - Along right hand string as walking up they want spindles and hand rails (Usually spindle would be on the left).

Is there a way that newel posts can be installed to accomodate these and to support the string. I have hunted high and low for an answer but not come close to a design which mimics what they are asking. In my head I've said I don't think it's possible but would like to get others opinions.

 

[Jacob]

You could simply ( :shock: ) put a newel post at every change of angle of the stringers and top and bottom. That'd be eight posts on your layout - as if it was a free standing stairway not attached to the walls. Though in fact they could be short (not down to the ground) where they are against the wall and could be fixed to it.
And there are other ways!

 

[HOJ]

This was originally designed as a winder, but we moved it into the room so no support from a wall, also changed the design to make it with a landing turn and open treads to open up to the room.

As Jacob said there's a lot of ways to do what you need.

 

[PAC1]

If the right hand string is not against a wall then it must have a handrail and spindles or other method of preventing a fall. I would build a structure from Newel posts at each of the change of string line points. This can be done so that the structure is square on plan. The structure then takes the load of the stairs and transfers it to the ground and provides the frame for the handrails.

 

[blackrodd]

Usually, the newel would be morticed, and the string fixed centrally.
You would normally use half newels, when the string is fixed to the wall.
I would be tempted to use full newels from the floor, for strength, and house/notch them over the string, thus giving you the space, off the wall, to fix the capping or track to the top of the string, for the spindles.
It would be nice if the client would allow you to fit a side handrail on the wall and the usual newel, spindle and handrail
finish to the open side.
And obviously decorating would be difficult behind the wall spindles.
Regards Rodders

 

[Stormer1940]

You could simply ( :shock: ) put a newel post at every change of angle of the stringers and top and bottom. That'd be eight posts on your layout - as if it was a free standing stairway not attached to the walls. Though in fact they could be short (not down to the ground) where they are against the wall and could be fixed to it.
And there are other ways!

Thanks all for the comments.


That was what I was concerned about. So in theory there would be 6 newel posts at the bottom of the stairs. To at the 1st step, 2 at the start of the wind , 1 to support and take handrail at corner and 1 at wind end.

Can anyone elaborate on the other methods please?

 

[richarnold]

Hi
I don't know if this helps, but this was an oak staircase we made about 10 years ago.
Cheers, Richard