ByronBlack
Established Member
Hi all,
Please don't hate me because i'm an indecisive fool! I have spent the last few months mulling over the TS purchase. I have the cash and will just not the choice. I require some rational thought to help me decide which will be suitable for me. I don't want to do a Devonwoody and try every saw under the sun only to be disapointed, i'm hoping to learn from some of his experiences - maybe DW you can help with some of my choices, I can't remember which saws you've tested out or which one you preferred?
Ok, so, I have upto £700 to spend maximum, thats actually pushing past my budget but that is the top end without question that I can spend.
I only want to buy once for the next 10 years.
I'm aiming mostly for accurate cross-cutting for mitred frames and good 90 degree stock. I would like to cut the odd large panel for workshop cabinets, outfeed table etc, but not sure how wide is actually required on a day to day basis.
I do have a bandsaw for cutting thick stock, but I'll mostly be using 1" to 2" timber, is it really required to cut 3" stock? Other than the beech for the worbench project I can't think off hand what I would make with stuff that thick?
It has to run on an 13amp circuit, or 16amp but not to juicy so it won't run an extractor (1000watt) at the same time. I have a 20amp supply for the workshop.
On to the contenders with relevant questions..
1. Sheppach TS2010. Price £669. Comes with sliding table, stand and extension with free delivery, most expensive of the options. Also the lightest - could this be a problem? No cast iron, but atleast it won't rust. Are these accurate?
2. Record Power TSPP250. Price £649 + Del. Big and heavy, 1m rip capacity, 80mm cut, no sliding table as standard, but does have the radial ability for crosscutting - how good is that feature? Better than a sliding table?
3. Record Power TS200C (new one). Price £559. Comes with sliding table and extension, plus stand and wheel kit. Same motor as the bigger TSPP250, but more compact machine, 600mm max rip capacity, seems to be a good choice with the built in small sliding table.
4. SIP 10" CI. Price £459. Big heavy and made of Iron. Not sure my wiring is up to it with an extractor and workshop lights all running, Slimjim has found the riving knife to be fiddly, no sliding table as standard and aftermarket one to large, poor dust extraction, but weighty and powerful.
5. Axminster TS200. Price £278. Kity 419 clone - complete mystery machine, seems too good for the price, £110 cheaper than the rest of the clones, how can that be? Seems good spec for the money, CI top and extension, sliding table, decent weight, stand but smallest motor fo the lot at just 1100watt - will this be man enough for 2" stock, and can it be any good at that price?
I'm leaning towards the new small sliding carriage Record as it seems to fit most of my needs, comes in on budget, but is brand new and not many people have used this yet..
I would like the SIP, but the power issue and riving knife are putting me off.
The scheppach also seems good, but the lightness worries me, however it does seem to have an excellent pedigree with fine adjusters on both the sliding fence and the rip fence - is is possible to make this more weighty (with some sandbags or something) when cutting heavy timbers, or does it do just fine without?
I know some of these questions have been asked already, but i'm looking for a good perspective on the general choice and maybe some feedback on the various machines. I've read all I can read on the past forum messages and it's muddied the water so much I just have no idea which way to turn.
TIA
Please don't hate me because i'm an indecisive fool! I have spent the last few months mulling over the TS purchase. I have the cash and will just not the choice. I require some rational thought to help me decide which will be suitable for me. I don't want to do a Devonwoody and try every saw under the sun only to be disapointed, i'm hoping to learn from some of his experiences - maybe DW you can help with some of my choices, I can't remember which saws you've tested out or which one you preferred?
Ok, so, I have upto £700 to spend maximum, thats actually pushing past my budget but that is the top end without question that I can spend.
I only want to buy once for the next 10 years.
I'm aiming mostly for accurate cross-cutting for mitred frames and good 90 degree stock. I would like to cut the odd large panel for workshop cabinets, outfeed table etc, but not sure how wide is actually required on a day to day basis.
I do have a bandsaw for cutting thick stock, but I'll mostly be using 1" to 2" timber, is it really required to cut 3" stock? Other than the beech for the worbench project I can't think off hand what I would make with stuff that thick?
It has to run on an 13amp circuit, or 16amp but not to juicy so it won't run an extractor (1000watt) at the same time. I have a 20amp supply for the workshop.
On to the contenders with relevant questions..
1. Sheppach TS2010. Price £669. Comes with sliding table, stand and extension with free delivery, most expensive of the options. Also the lightest - could this be a problem? No cast iron, but atleast it won't rust. Are these accurate?
2. Record Power TSPP250. Price £649 + Del. Big and heavy, 1m rip capacity, 80mm cut, no sliding table as standard, but does have the radial ability for crosscutting - how good is that feature? Better than a sliding table?
3. Record Power TS200C (new one). Price £559. Comes with sliding table and extension, plus stand and wheel kit. Same motor as the bigger TSPP250, but more compact machine, 600mm max rip capacity, seems to be a good choice with the built in small sliding table.
4. SIP 10" CI. Price £459. Big heavy and made of Iron. Not sure my wiring is up to it with an extractor and workshop lights all running, Slimjim has found the riving knife to be fiddly, no sliding table as standard and aftermarket one to large, poor dust extraction, but weighty and powerful.
5. Axminster TS200. Price £278. Kity 419 clone - complete mystery machine, seems too good for the price, £110 cheaper than the rest of the clones, how can that be? Seems good spec for the money, CI top and extension, sliding table, decent weight, stand but smallest motor fo the lot at just 1100watt - will this be man enough for 2" stock, and can it be any good at that price?
I'm leaning towards the new small sliding carriage Record as it seems to fit most of my needs, comes in on budget, but is brand new and not many people have used this yet..
I would like the SIP, but the power issue and riving knife are putting me off.
The scheppach also seems good, but the lightness worries me, however it does seem to have an excellent pedigree with fine adjusters on both the sliding fence and the rip fence - is is possible to make this more weighty (with some sandbags or something) when cutting heavy timbers, or does it do just fine without?
I know some of these questions have been asked already, but i'm looking for a good perspective on the general choice and maybe some feedback on the various machines. I've read all I can read on the past forum messages and it's muddied the water so much I just have no idea which way to turn.
TIA
