site table saw shootout.

[sunnybob]

I'm still looking...
This is one of the best comparisons I've seen, its swaying me slightly to consider a make I would not otherwise have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oi5BTKl2hY
I'm working my way through the web site tests now
https://www.toolboxbuzz.com/category/head-to-head/

 

[Cordy]

Bob
Not convinced with the above tests
The chap above has owned the D/W 745 for yonks and I'm not surprised

It's a cracking saw; with a to die for fence
Can you source one - new or s/h on your island ?

 

[sunnybob]

Cordy, Dewalt is available here, but at full retail plus 25% (because they can).
Its the problem of being on a small (ish) island with only one main machine importer, who has a large family that all need three mercedes. :roll: :roll: Buying new here would double the entire value of my workshop.

 

[MikeJhn]

Bob

I am sure you have thought of this before, but as they are all portable saws is it not possible to pick one up second hand on the main land and carry/wheel it onto the ferry as a foot passenger with luggage, must be cheaper than a van on the ferry, which I assume is a major cost?

Mike

 

[sunnybob]

Mike,
endless hiccups in that scenario...
There are no ferries to the Republic of Cyprus from anywhere. To get here you fly, or you swim a couple hundred miles.
There is a ferry from Turkey to the illegal Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC), but to get from there to here I have to go through customs, which would want to see a receipt to prove its a legal item and not a copy (does chinese count as a copy of a real one?). Then they would want me to pay import duty of 20% and vat on all of that at 19%
uh uh :roll: :roll:

Just come back from the main tool importers in Nicosia;
They have three table saws, all site saws.
A powerplus (fingers down your throat time)
a Ryobi, very thin pressed metal top that does not line up with the side panels.
and an AEG, which is a monster of a site saw, takes up almost as much space as a wadkin would, barely acceptable quality (for a site saw) and they want 700 euro for that.

Luckily my wish for a table saw is not pressing, I will go on looking.

 

[MikeJhn]

I did not realise there weren't ferries to Cyprus, I just naturally assumed there would be.

I suppose your only option is buy new, or patiently wait for a second hand one to become available that some other mug has paid through the nose for, none of which are good options, but I suppose living in Cyprus does have its compensations.

I wish you luck in your search.
Mike

 

[sunnybob]

Just done a bit more surfing. I see the dewalt 745 is on sale in the Uk at £435
The importer of dewalt here is selling the 745QC (?) for 750 euro (£645)

 

[OscarG]

Bob...

Happy new year by the way!

I have a DeWalt 7491, it's more or less the same as the 745 (just a slightly bigger table and a tad more more powerful) and I have to say I'm delighted with it, one of the best machines I've ever bought.

The fence is really solid and easy to adjust. It has a shroud underneath to help contain the dust.

There's only 2 things I don't like about it:

a) it's noisy, seriously loud
b) if you're ripping anything narrower than 25mm the wingnut on the crown guard fouls the fence. One day I'll get round to fixing that.

Apart from that it's a great bit of kit!

 

[Tasky]

Thread title suggested idiots using table saw kickback to shoot blocks of wood at targets/each other.

I'm both relieved and disappointed...

 

[transatlantic]

Thread title suggested idiots using table saw kickback to shoot blocks of wood at targets/each other.

I'm both relieved and disappointed...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnx3ipM-rqA

 

[MikeJhn]

As the US say Awesome. =D> =D> =D> #-o #-o #-o

 

[sunnybob]

I'm starting from a strange beginning.
I've NEVER used a table saw, but I need a method of cutting long straight THIN (ish) pieces of wood.

I cant do it accurately enough on the bandsaw.
I have tried repeatedly with the router table, using an offset outfeed fence, but that has the bizarre outcome of making the wood tapered (WTF?).

If I need (for example) to make a cupboard door, I have no way of making the rails and stiles straight and even from a large plank of wood. No, I cant use a hand plane, i've mentioned many times my hands can not do that work anymore, it has to be a power solution.
I envision the table saw as being my salvation, but at a cost I cannot justify for my very little hobby work.

Oh well.... 8) 8) 8)

 

[MikeJhn]

Bob

We are of a similar age and have the same problems with our hands, the wardrobe doors I made the year before last could not have been done without the table saw, and router table for shaping, you have the theory right, just a matter of finding the equipment you need, I can get a saw half way down France for you, but the logistics from there are nigh on impossible, without the intervention of someone else, anyone here in the export business? or have a boat in the Med.

Mike

 

[MikeJhn]

Hate to mention this, but have you ever used a track saw?

Mike

 

[sunnybob]

No experience of a track saw. Used a circular saw sometime around 1973 if thats any help? (hammer) (hammer) :roll:

from a viewpoint of complete ignorance, I dont think I have any space to use a track saw. If I start with a plank of beech 17cm x 2.5 cm x 2.5 metres long, how am I going to get that into rails and stiles for a cupboard door using a tracksaw?

Mike, nope, as soon as you factor in any transport cost its straight over a thousand again. and i just dont have that money to spend on my little hobby shop.

 

[MikeJhn]

I don't see a workpiece of 170mm x 25mm x 2500mm being a problem, the tracks come in multiples of 350mm either joined together or one length up to 3150mm, each is able to be clamped to the workpiece and forms the track for the saw to run along, personally I don't like them, but it could be a solution, work intensive compared to a table saw, but still a possible solution, have a look on U tube I am sure you will find some interesting video's there.

Mike

 

[sunnybob]

What would be the cost of a track saw and 3 metres of track, in relation to a table saw?

 

[MikeJhn]

How long is a piece of string, Festool may as well take out a mortgage to pay for it, I paid under £100.00 for my version with 1400mm track from Rutlands, does what it's supposed to, finish is as good as the blade you have on it, but that would be the same with a table saw, if you are only going to be cutting sheet/thin goods with it then a small blade version may do you, lots available, but I don't know about your area obviously.

 

[MikeJhn]

Forgot, for a one piece 3M track you are talking about as much as the saw costs, they seem to get very expensive in long lengths, mine is two lengths at 700mm, work fine if you clamp them flat and do a bit of fettling on the joint.

 

[sunnybob]

good grief, dont you sleep? its 5.30 am in the UK. :shock:

I'll have to look around for prices. A track saw would be better for me space wise, but it would be an awful lot of setting up everytime I want to cut up a plank.
I dont have any need to rip panels, I have a tame woodyard with massive cnc panel saws that dont charge for cutting. My need is for straight parallel sticks.