Oneway Multi Gauge...When Is A Table Flat!

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PeteG

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After the laying out for the new P/T I decided to buy the Oneway to help with blade setting. I had seen them before but didn't really give it much thought until another member in a PM conversation recommended one. So yesterday I ordered one through Toolpost which was delivered by DPD bright and early this morning.
This isn't a review of the tool, as I've never worked within the accuracy that this provides, millimeters have always been just fine. I used the cast iron table on the bandsaw to set the Oneway up which takes but a minute a two, and as you can see in the first image both needles are set to Zero.



I then placed it on the outfeed table of the P/T...As you can see it's out by a smidgen, I then moved it around the bandsaw table again and got a
different reading every time. I best be careful not to breath to hard :D



I haven't used it to set the blades on the P/T yet, but it's a brilliant aid for setting the fence :)

 
Would you mind saying what you paid for it and if you bought the dial gauge with it?

I've got one (dial gauge) with a metric thread on the end. I've tried and completely failed to find an elephant's foot for it at a sensible price, which would make it useful in the same way. There are plenty of imperial-threaded sets around, but weirdly, I can only find individual tips at silly prices.

Regarding the Oneway tool itself, it looks really neat. I've seen them in the USA, but even there, priced in USD they seem very expensive. For now, I get by with a straightedge and feeler gauges - not ideal but workable. Do you think it's worth the money?
 
Just remember it's wood you are ultimately working with not a super stable exotic alloy.

Wood will move with just the mention of the weather forecast, as will your machinery to a lesser extent.
 
I bought one about 5 years ago and it is a very useful tool for setups. It replaced all the old methods I had for setting outfeed table height. But for absolute sure it's No 1 use is in setting anything square to anything else, in particular if cast iron because unlike squares, you don't have to hold it leaving both your hands free to dial in any adjustments to bolts, knobs, adjusters etc to bring it up square. I paid about £92 for mine but as I say, it was a while back. I got mine from Toolpost too as Peter is the UK importer for Oneway (because of the lathes in his case).
 
it is expensive, but a fantastic tool. I have had one for a few years.

If you had to buy an alternative tool for setting blades, that would be £30+, so by comparison it isnt that bad. I could never get on with the drag method.
 
Eric The Viking":2go1b245 said:
Would you mind saying what you paid for it and if you bought the dial gauge with it?

I've got one (dial gauge) with a metric thread on the end. I've tried and completely failed to find an elephant's foot for it at a sensible price, which would make it useful in the same way. There are plenty of imperial-threaded sets around, but weirdly, I can only find individual tips at silly prices.

Regarding the Oneway tool itself, it looks really neat. I've seen them in the USA, but even there, priced in USD they seem very expensive. For now, I get by with a straightedge and feeler gauges - not ideal but workable. Do you think it's worth the money?


Hello Eric. The website price was £71.39, but I hadn't realised their prices are ex vat, so it's £85.67. I'd say so far it's worth it, it's nicely made, and if
you need the accuracy. The instructions give you a few things it can be used for including setting table saw blades. The Woodwhisperer has done a
nice little video using one to set his P/T blades, he tested a few things and this came out top for him.
 
£85.67! Gah!! it gets worse!

Please tell me that includes shipping!?!
 
Eric The Viking":3rkqd0my said:
Would you mind saying what you paid for it and if you bought the dial gauge with it?

I've got one (dial gauge) with a metric thread on the end. I've tried and completely failed to find an elephant's foot for it at a sensible price, which would make it useful in the same way. There are plenty of imperial-threaded sets around, but weirdly, I can only find individual tips at silly prices.

Regarding the Oneway tool itself, it looks really neat. I've seen them in the USA, but even there, priced in USD they seem very expensive. For now, I get by with a straightedge and feeler gauges - not ideal but workable. Do you think it's worth the money?

I found the same thing, most dial gauges come with a ball tip as standard and when searching for tips the only metric ones I have found cost as much as a budget dial gauge. I did recently buy a mitutoyo dial gauge (a small size one) which came with a flat tip and ball although strangely no website Ive come across mentions whether the gauges come with different tips.
 
JSW":14z9zbfp said:
£85.67! Gah!! it gets worse!

Please tell me that includes shipping!?!


Sadly not, £7.50 via DPD. I've been selling my fishing tackle off to help pay for things, but on the positive side, once it's been
delivered and you're playing for it, the pain eases a bit! There again that could be down to the tablets :D
 
I've just checked all three blades and they all seem to be pushing 9 thousandths of an inch higher than the out feed table.
Would that be about right or a little too high? The finish on the oak I have planed so far is very nice, once I slowed the feed
rate down a bit. I pushed the first board through a bit quick for the new P/T and had little waves along it's length.
 
I think the rule of thumb (as discussed here many times) is about 3 thou higher if memory serves me correctly. That's what I always use (with the Oneway) but the great value of that setting instrument is it's very very fine and allows the user to for once in his life to actually "know" what the distance is ie its measured. When I was using the "drag a bit of wood" technique it's once removed from actually measuring the distance. The point being that if you do set it at 9 thou and then go ahead and plane a variety of boards, maybe some hard, some soft, you'll see and feel the results. You could then set it at 3 thou and observe the difference.

The older methods, don't allow that kind of precision/repeatability in the setup and although it does sound a bit anal retentive, planar setups I believe you do really want precision to that level of accuracy to get decent results. So as I say I aim for 3 thou myself and if it goes to 4 or 5 I don't fret too much but with the Oneway you really can get it that accurate on all blades right across the width.
 
The Oneway is a superb bit of kit and actually fantastic value for money. But if the budget won't quite stretch that far then Peter Sefton stocks a new measuring tool that's nearly as good but at a much lower price,

http://woodworkersworkshop.co.uk/epages ... IG_35-0907

I've got them both and for setting planer knives (or router tooling, or spindle tooling) the iGaging Snapcheck is perfectly adequate.
 
That looks handy. I currently use an older imperial gizmo for tooling height setting with two legs and a ruler. The great advantage that I see in those digital readout versions is that to those of us with a few grey hairs!! I can read the measurement without having to squint at the scale to see the graduations.
 
custard":1e6o6bqy said:
The Oneway is a superb bit of kit and actually fantastic value for money. But if the budget won't quite stretch that far then Peter Sefton stocks a new measuring tool that's nearly as good but at a much lower price,

http://woodworkersworkshop.co.uk/epages ... IG_35-0907

I've got them both and for setting planer knives (or router tooling, or spindle tooling) the iGaging Snapcheck is perfectly adequate.

That's clearly not as well made as the Oneway, and doesn't have the built in square.

The square's no real loss, as an engineer's square (or 1-2-3 blocks) are cheap.

But the build quality looks worrying; what's the main body made from, plastic or alloy?

How flat is the base (as far as you know) ?

BugBear
 
bugbear":1j5cyxy9 said:
custard":1j5cyxy9 said:
The Oneway is a superb bit of kit and actually fantastic value for money. But if the budget won't quite stretch that far then Peter Sefton stocks a new measuring tool that's nearly as good but at a much lower price,

http://woodworkersworkshop.co.uk/epages ... IG_35-0907

I've got them both and for setting planer knives (or router tooling, or spindle tooling) the iGaging Snapcheck is perfectly adequate.

That's clearly not as well made as the Oneway, and doesn't have the built in square.

The square's no real loss, as an engineer's square (or 1-2-3 blocks) are cheap.

But the build quality looks worrying; what's the main body made from, plastic or alloy?

How flat is the base (as far as you know) ?

BugBear

It's an excellent tool for the money, it's as flat as you need it for woodworking machinery and delivers exactly the same results as my more expensive Oneway gauge and my even more expensive Aigner Distometer. For a hobbyist trying to stretch their budget it's a terrific option.
 
:idea: That digital tool could be replicated with digital calipers and a suitable offcut. Hmm, I have a set of digital calipers. Something else to go on the list of things to make. :roll:
 
I think I may have an addiction to buying digital verniers! Aldi seem to recycle the stock about once a year for around 7 quid and I always buy another set....why the hell do I do that??? I've got 3 now! I think I'll go and lie down!
 
custard":u1a07iu6 said:
The Oneway is a superb bit of kit and actually fantastic value for money. But if the budget won't quite stretch that far then Peter Sefton stocks a new measuring tool that's nearly as good but at a much lower price,

http://woodworkersworkshop.co.uk/epages ... IG_35-0907

I've got them both and for setting planer knives (or router tooling, or spindle tooling) the iGaging Snapcheck is perfectly adequate.

One of the reasons I liked the look of the Oneway was that it looked like it will be totally stable when standing on its own, leaving both hands free. I guess that sense of stability comes from flatness, breadth and mass. The iGauging tool looks both narrower and lighter, so I wondered do you find it is OK to leaving standing on its own, or does it tend to topple over?

Thanks,
Terry.

Edit: Apologies Custard, just seen this

igaging-snapcheck-tool-review-t95225.html

You have already answered the question :oops:

Terry.
 

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