You don't provide any though. A one word answer 'wrong' isn't evidence.As I said, I don't accept your evidence, just like you don't accept mine
One-jab efficacy questions
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Selwyn
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What about the people who have been asymptomatic or even mild ill ie the majority of covid "cases"? Their own immune system has statistically appeared to serve them very well
Selwyn
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Lockdown is also serious and many people are suffering.
That was because of the horrific lack of PPE. Medical professionals having to reuse masks and using makeshift gowns.
Selwyn
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In your opinion.....which is wrong
Oh perhaps you are right, it's so bad, the NHS are opening 80 long Covid clinics - just for fearmongering
"More than 80 new clinics to assess patients suffering with symptoms of long Covid are to be opened by the NHS by the end of this month"
It's terrible the way 850 healthcare workers have died from Covid, just for fearmongering
My niece has a colleague suffering heart problems from Covid and can't workmfull time now......maybe that's all lies and it's just fearmongering.
How many people do you know - exactly you know yourself who have died from covid who weren't pretty old and infirm?
Selwyn
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There was a lack of PPE in the beginning. A lot was being hoarded too. It was a tricky situation for sure. There is no doubt covid was all over the country last march and most probably before xmas too.
But don't kid yourself nosocomial infection was just in March last year. If you think the future is so terrifying then tell me why the nightingales have all been disbanded?
Selwyn
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Are you finally acknowedging risk for the young is massively less than for the old? If you think covid is still the great threat you claim then I'm stunned that you are not advocating injecting everyone from birth to death
The Nightingales have been disbanded because the lockdowns and vaccines have worked. Look at places like India where they haven't been able to control the spread of the virus.
COVID has killed 3.5 m people worldwide of course it is a great threat.
RobinBHM
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Childish strawman and ad hominem awfully tedious
You can't debate honestly because you are debating from a position that is wrong.
You are welcome to continue believing your own hogwash, but I do wish you would stop subjecting us to it.
RobinBHM
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Whataboutery.
pot, meet kettle.
RobinBHM
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Whataboutery.
The NHS are opening loads of long Covid clinics.
Why are you avoiding commenting on that?
RobinBHM
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I tried in the past, he ignores it.
I know one person who possibly died with covid in Feb 2020, they were in their mid 90's and riddled with dementia, their death was a blessing really. Otherwise no one I know, or anyone I know knows has died.
Wicker man, ad homonym!
John Brown
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What, exactly, do either of those terms mean?
That is perfectly true, but its a risky strategy as those whose immune system does not respond to covid are at risk of getting a nasty disease. The older and the more vulnerable would be far safer getting a vaccine. For children ie below age 11 the data seems to suggest they are fine without the vaccine, very few get complications. For teenage the data is a mixed. I know of older teenagers who have been seriously ill.
There is a risk that those who were asymptomatic or mildly ill with covid first time round, may not be immune to the Indian and other new variants, some of which are implicated with higher mortality and serious illiness in the young. Data on this is only just emerging in India so we really dont know, but its something to watch as that would change the risk profile.
Selwyn
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The vaccines have worked. The lockdown wasn't necessary. Particularly 12 months plus of in/out lockdown
India. I don't think any countries have particularly managed to control the spread of the virus once its endemic.
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