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custard":1xng4lub said:
Glynne, if you enjoy a more ceremonial approach to tool preparation then Japanese chisels offer the potential for huge satisfaction. Mounting the hoops, maintaining the back, constant oiling to keep rust away, learning all the specialised language...you'll be halfway to becoming a Shinto priest by the end of it.

If you're chiefly about cutting craftsmanlike joints in hardwoods then stick with your LN chisels.

Fantastic post. Gives new meaning to 'sharper than British wit...'
 
Benchwayze":2pv67yri said:
Not if he realises it's a 'baited swim'... 8)

Correction. He was along earlier. :D .
I had to look up "baited swim". An angling term it seems. Not a million miles from "trolling". Something new everyday! :lol:
 
Hardwood66":38pp61ie said:
I have a set and can't get one with them at all to heavy to long plus they take forever to sharpen

DONT mention that b l o o d y word ( SHAPENING ! ) again or I will SCREAM ! :tongue9: :evil: :twisted: ](*,)
 
Jacob":2ihvna5i said:
Benchwayze":2ihvna5i said:
Not if he realises it's a 'baited swim'... 8)

Correction. He was along earlier. :D .
I had to look up "baited swim". An angling term it seems. Not a million miles from "trolling". Something new everyday! :lol:

An angling term indeed Jacob; and if it is a 'baited swim'; be assured I was not the one who did the baiting. I merely described it. The only time I 'ground-bait', is when I am after the tench! Slippery customers they are. Not that I can do any angling until my new knees are working properly!


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SHAPENING..................... :?:

I have some lovely old Sorbys and Marples....

My favorite is the one I made by marrying/braising a Marples custard n jelly to a scott (?) file.....wow what an edge :shock:
 
Temptation 1, Will Power "nil"

I succumbed to a japanese paring chisel on the really compelling argument that I don't have a paring chisel (flimsy or what?).
A secondary argument is that it will be a family heirloom to be passed down to: -

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I think some serious training is necessary as his first inclination was to use it as a cricket bat - but as long as he doesn't use it to prise out upholstery tacks as his Grandma once did with some of my chisels, then there is hope.
BTW, the edge still has it's protective film on - at that price I don't want the chisel damaged!!

Thanks for the advice guys.

Glynne
 

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Do tell us how you get on please.

David Charlesworth

Hi David

You are probably not aware that you are indirectly responsible for the popularity of Koyamaichi chisels. I first came across this brand after reading about them in one of your books about a dozen years ago. I looked all over for them, but you must have had the only ones in existence. :? Eventually I came across a few being sold on eBay, and pounced on them. A couple of years ago Stu (Tools from Japan) contacted me for my opinion of them as he was considering selling them after having met Mr Koyama. He arranged for Mr Koyama to make up a few custom versions for me (in the end I think that these are what are now being sold).

I wrote about this here: http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolReview ... isels.html

Here are the Koyamaichi I have ...

KoyamaichiChisels_html_m503d1791.jpg


As far as Japanese paring chisels go ... slicks ... I have a set of Kiyohisa. These were a three year wait, but worth it ...

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Wonderful chisels to use.

Regards from Perth

Derek
 
Derek,

This is most interesting. Paul Brown sold Japanese tools, in UK, for a number of years. His catalogue contained many choices of maker. Perhaps too many. I think that Shiro (not sure about spelling), the agent was too persuasive. I believe Ice Bear brand is run by his daughter, who I have met. Anyway at that time, I became dissatisfied with Iyori. There were good, affordable, long paring chisels by Koyama, and better finished, more expensive ones by Koyamaichi. I was told that these two were brothers???

Best wishes,
David
 
Do tell us how you get on please.

David Charlesworth

Hi David

You are probably not aware that you are indirectly responsible for the popularity of Koyamaichi chisels. I first came across this brand after reading about them in one of your books about a dozen years ago. I looked all over for them, but you must have had the only ones in existence. :? Eventually I came across a few being sold on eBay, and pounced on them. A couple of years ago Stu (Tools from Japan) contacted me for my opinion of them as he was considering selling them after having met Mr Koyama. He arranged for Mr Koyama to make up a few custom versions for me (in the end I think that these are what are now being sold).

I wrote about this here: http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolReview ... isels.html

Here are the Koyamaichi I have ...

KoyamaichiChisels_html_m503d1791.jpg


As far as Japanese paring chisels go ... slicks ... I have a set of Kiyohisa. These were a three year wait, but worth it ...

6.jpg


Wonderful chisels to use.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Incidentally Derek your blog post was the reason why I ordered one from stu, though I'm still waiting for it. Apparently it takes 5-6 weeks to get one made, as I customised it to have a boxwood handle, blue paper steel and a dovetail profile :)

Its now coming up to the 5th week so could be any day now and I can't wait!

As a quick aside the one thing which put me of ordering from tools from japan was I assumed postage would be high to the uk. Amazingly it only cost £2.80 for postage ....... that's less than axminster!!!!

John
 
speeder1987":3nrlc6gt said:
As a quick aside the one thing which put me of ordering from tools from japan was I assumed postage would be high to the uk. Amazingly it only cost £2.80 for postage ....... that's less than axminster!!!!

Ditto - I had a (rather nice) 10" Kitchen knife sent over - 7 USD P&P.

BugBear
 
We will see, when I had a waterstone sent over, there were no additional fees, but we will see this time :)

John
 
speeder1987":2qrz4vll said:
Do tell us how you get on please.

David Charlesworth

Hi David

You are probably not aware that you are indirectly responsible for the popularity of Koyamaichi chisels. I first came across this brand after reading about them in one of your books about a dozen years ago. I looked all over for them, but you must have had the only ones in existence. :? Eventually I came across a few being sold on eBay, and pounced on them. A couple of years ago Stu (Tools from Japan) contacted me for my opinion of them as he was considering selling them after having met Mr Koyama. He arranged for Mr Koyama to make up a few custom versions for me (in the end I think that these are what are now being sold).

I wrote about this here: http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolReview ... isels.html

Here are the Koyamaichi I have ...

KoyamaichiChisels_html_m503d1791.jpg


As far as Japanese paring chisels go ... slicks ... I have a set of Kiyohisa. These were a three year wait, but worth it ...

6.jpg


Wonderful chisels to use.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Incidentally Derek your blog post was the reason why I ordered one from stu, though I'm still waiting for it. Apparently it takes 5-6 weeks to get one made, as I customised it to have a boxwood handle, blue paper steel and a dovetail profile :)

Its now coming up to the 5th week so could be any day now and I can't wait!

As a quick aside the one thing which put me of ordering from tools from japan was I assumed postage would be high to the uk. Amazingly it only cost £2.80 for postage ....... that's less than axminster!!!!

John

well, this thing goes down in circles - as i bought my koyamaichi chisels after seeing a post from Derek. it also shows the power of persuasion of forums over the initiated, i dare say. anyway, lovely chisel.
 
If you are looking for high quality nomi for an affordable price the either Kikuhiromaru or Ouchi are top. With high quality I mean long lasting edge and ease of sharpening.
They are worth every penny if you compare this to their performance.
 
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