AES
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By "the problem", I mean the hand-held power tool cables problem.
(Mods - I wasn't sure if this post belongs in "Tool Reviews", "Home Made Tools & Jigs", or "General Wood Working", sorry. Please move if required).
From time to time I read here how annoying it can be coiling up and storing the individual power cables that come permanently fitted to just about all power tools - there have been several previous posts on that subject.
If items like domestic electric kettles can have a separate power cable, why not our power tools?
In fact Festool do exactly that, but AFAIK, they're the only tools brand that does so, AND their own system doesn't fit any other tools. Not only that, the Festool individual power cables cost about 16 quid apiece (though I must admit, that's for a cable complete with special quick release socket on one end - to match the tool - plus whatever plug is needed to connect to the user's wall socket - UK, German, US, whatever).
But amongst the many more "down to earth" tool ranges, most if not all seem to come with individual cables of varying length (I find often too short or too long!); AND they're often pretty horrible, rather stiff, plastic-sheathed cables too (both 2- and 3-core cables). I guess that's one of the ways the bean counters keep the costs down.
Those like me, who for space/storage/neatness reasons do try to use the blow-moulded plastic cases that most tools came with originally, find that with the very tight partitions, re-coiling those stiff cables can be more than a real PITA. Even the nylon carry bags that some tools come in don't make life that much easier either.
Obviously others have similar problems. A while back I saw some Youtube videos from various people (amongst others Marius Hornberger), who have attempted to fix this problem. But if you look at Marius' video (see link below), I think you'll agree with me that there are 2 problems with his approach:
First, he disassembles his tools to connect the quick release socket - surely unnecessary (and IMO, the way he does it is not entirely safe either); and second, the cost of the quick release plug & socket connectors he used seems rather high too (see below). But I do agree that his QR plugs and sockets are pretty slim & neat, and do seem safe. Here's the relevant info if you want to check for yourself:
Marius Hornberger video, "A quick connection system for power tools":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WquQYdwcr74&t=503s
Neutrik Power Con 1:
Current typical internet prices are about a fiver per QR plug and about 6 quid per QR socket. (That excludes cabling). And on the sites I looked at, those prices only drop by about a quid apiece for buys of Qty 50+!
So as above, I have MAYBE found a better solution.
Unlike the UK system, the standard Swiss electrical system (single and three phase) does not use fused plugs (apparently that's why we don't have the ring main wiring system here). But that does mean that standard Swiss plugs (and trailing line sockets) are inherently less bulky than their UK equivalents.
"So what?" Do I hear UK readers asking? Read on:
To supplement our standard range of plugs and line sockets I've recently come across a new idea in our local DIY Emporium. These plugs and sockets are fully compatible with all the other, older products, BUT, of great interest here, they've added a simple quick release system. See below, showing the Swiss standard (LH) with the QR version (RH):
Photo 1 - QR Plug & Line Socket v Standard Swiss:
My idea is to use one of these QR plugs on each of my portable power tools. It's obviously not necessary to convert the "fixed" tools such as lathe, pillar drill, disc sander, etc; nor seldom-used tools such as my hot air gun or even the charger/s for my battery drills. But adding in a couple of outside garden tools (hedge trimmer, etc) I still come up with a total of about 25 tools to convert (Yes, "ridiculous", isn't it?!). I'll do that over a period, but here's a couple already done. Note the very much shortened original cable (NO stripping the tool necessary, NO disturbing the existing cable strain relief sleeve, and MUCH easier packing into original case:
Photo 2 - QR Plug v Standard "Kettle":
Photo 3 - QR Internals:
I also reckon I'll need about 5 of the matching QR line sockets to make up 5 special power leads (2 long ones on existing reels for outside garden use, plus 3, one each of say 1 metre, 2 metre, and 5 metre lengths). This last is mainly for my wet & dry shop vac. For these inside leads I'll use decent, tough but flexible 3 core cable, so even when using tools which are "double insulated" (2 core cable) there'll be no need to pick and choose cables -they'll all just be hanging conveniently near to hand in she shop.
Later I think I may also make up a fourth power cable combined with a flexible vacuum hose for use with sanders (dust extraction, to match up with the shop vac and cyclone separator).
Here's two of the inside cables I've already made up, compared with a typical "kettle-type" power cable:
Photo 4 - New QR Cable:
Photo 5 - New QR Cable (Long)
OF COURSE, it's a QR PLUG that goes on the tool, and a QR SOCKET which goes on the lead, NOT vice-versa. (Being a devout coward I DO NOT fancy the idea of a cable with live plug prongs on each end)!!!
But whatever goes on the "wall socket" end of these QR cables is entirely up to me. In my case it will be standard Swiss plugs of course (and plugs with standard ELCB safety plugs on the outside cable reels). But it could just as well be German or other Euro plugs, or even for Forum members, UK plugs! See comment below.
Photo 6 - Converted Drills
This seems to be an easy and quite a quick solution to me, AND it comes at a reasonable cost too. Although these new QR plugs and line sockets are over double the price of standard Swiss plugs and line sockets, they still come in at less than half the price of the Neutrik system mentioned above. I reckon that including "nice" new flexible cable for the inside cables, my total cost for converting roughly 25 tools will be less than 70 quid - well worth it for me to get all above benefits.
Any possible problems? First, although these QR plugs and sockets seem to be moulded from a pretty tough nylon/plastic material I doubt that they're generally as tough as the Neutrik products. For example, I'm not sure I'd want to trust these to typical on-site conditions, but for me anyway, on-site work doesn't apply.
Second, the strain relief system is "working" but not all that brilliant (see Photo 3 above). Myself I can see ways to improve that significantly with judicial use of heat shrink sleeve, etc.
Third, I just bought the plugs and sockets shown above as a simple one off customer wandering off the street into my local DIY branch. Apart seeing the label "Made in PRC" on them, I've no idea if they're currently available in UK (I doubt it). Nor if the DIY chain concerned would even be interested in trying to tie up some sort of deal for a quantity purchase.
But IF UK members are interested I'd certainly be willing to make some "official" enquiries - obviously NO promises though.
But PM me if interested, because IMO, this could be "the answer to the maiden's prayer" - perhaps even UK maidens!
AES
(Mods - I wasn't sure if this post belongs in "Tool Reviews", "Home Made Tools & Jigs", or "General Wood Working", sorry. Please move if required).
From time to time I read here how annoying it can be coiling up and storing the individual power cables that come permanently fitted to just about all power tools - there have been several previous posts on that subject.
If items like domestic electric kettles can have a separate power cable, why not our power tools?
In fact Festool do exactly that, but AFAIK, they're the only tools brand that does so, AND their own system doesn't fit any other tools. Not only that, the Festool individual power cables cost about 16 quid apiece (though I must admit, that's for a cable complete with special quick release socket on one end - to match the tool - plus whatever plug is needed to connect to the user's wall socket - UK, German, US, whatever).
But amongst the many more "down to earth" tool ranges, most if not all seem to come with individual cables of varying length (I find often too short or too long!); AND they're often pretty horrible, rather stiff, plastic-sheathed cables too (both 2- and 3-core cables). I guess that's one of the ways the bean counters keep the costs down.
Those like me, who for space/storage/neatness reasons do try to use the blow-moulded plastic cases that most tools came with originally, find that with the very tight partitions, re-coiling those stiff cables can be more than a real PITA. Even the nylon carry bags that some tools come in don't make life that much easier either.
Obviously others have similar problems. A while back I saw some Youtube videos from various people (amongst others Marius Hornberger), who have attempted to fix this problem. But if you look at Marius' video (see link below), I think you'll agree with me that there are 2 problems with his approach:
First, he disassembles his tools to connect the quick release socket - surely unnecessary (and IMO, the way he does it is not entirely safe either); and second, the cost of the quick release plug & socket connectors he used seems rather high too (see below). But I do agree that his QR plugs and sockets are pretty slim & neat, and do seem safe. Here's the relevant info if you want to check for yourself:
Marius Hornberger video, "A quick connection system for power tools":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WquQYdwcr74&t=503s
Neutrik Power Con 1:
Current typical internet prices are about a fiver per QR plug and about 6 quid per QR socket. (That excludes cabling). And on the sites I looked at, those prices only drop by about a quid apiece for buys of Qty 50+!
So as above, I have MAYBE found a better solution.
Unlike the UK system, the standard Swiss electrical system (single and three phase) does not use fused plugs (apparently that's why we don't have the ring main wiring system here). But that does mean that standard Swiss plugs (and trailing line sockets) are inherently less bulky than their UK equivalents.
"So what?" Do I hear UK readers asking? Read on:
To supplement our standard range of plugs and line sockets I've recently come across a new idea in our local DIY Emporium. These plugs and sockets are fully compatible with all the other, older products, BUT, of great interest here, they've added a simple quick release system. See below, showing the Swiss standard (LH) with the QR version (RH):
Photo 1 - QR Plug & Line Socket v Standard Swiss:
My idea is to use one of these QR plugs on each of my portable power tools. It's obviously not necessary to convert the "fixed" tools such as lathe, pillar drill, disc sander, etc; nor seldom-used tools such as my hot air gun or even the charger/s for my battery drills. But adding in a couple of outside garden tools (hedge trimmer, etc) I still come up with a total of about 25 tools to convert (Yes, "ridiculous", isn't it?!). I'll do that over a period, but here's a couple already done. Note the very much shortened original cable (NO stripping the tool necessary, NO disturbing the existing cable strain relief sleeve, and MUCH easier packing into original case:
Photo 2 - QR Plug v Standard "Kettle":
Photo 3 - QR Internals:
I also reckon I'll need about 5 of the matching QR line sockets to make up 5 special power leads (2 long ones on existing reels for outside garden use, plus 3, one each of say 1 metre, 2 metre, and 5 metre lengths). This last is mainly for my wet & dry shop vac. For these inside leads I'll use decent, tough but flexible 3 core cable, so even when using tools which are "double insulated" (2 core cable) there'll be no need to pick and choose cables -they'll all just be hanging conveniently near to hand in she shop.
Later I think I may also make up a fourth power cable combined with a flexible vacuum hose for use with sanders (dust extraction, to match up with the shop vac and cyclone separator).
Here's two of the inside cables I've already made up, compared with a typical "kettle-type" power cable:
Photo 4 - New QR Cable:
Photo 5 - New QR Cable (Long)
OF COURSE, it's a QR PLUG that goes on the tool, and a QR SOCKET which goes on the lead, NOT vice-versa. (Being a devout coward I DO NOT fancy the idea of a cable with live plug prongs on each end)!!!
But whatever goes on the "wall socket" end of these QR cables is entirely up to me. In my case it will be standard Swiss plugs of course (and plugs with standard ELCB safety plugs on the outside cable reels). But it could just as well be German or other Euro plugs, or even for Forum members, UK plugs! See comment below.
Photo 6 - Converted Drills
This seems to be an easy and quite a quick solution to me, AND it comes at a reasonable cost too. Although these new QR plugs and line sockets are over double the price of standard Swiss plugs and line sockets, they still come in at less than half the price of the Neutrik system mentioned above. I reckon that including "nice" new flexible cable for the inside cables, my total cost for converting roughly 25 tools will be less than 70 quid - well worth it for me to get all above benefits.
Any possible problems? First, although these QR plugs and sockets seem to be moulded from a pretty tough nylon/plastic material I doubt that they're generally as tough as the Neutrik products. For example, I'm not sure I'd want to trust these to typical on-site conditions, but for me anyway, on-site work doesn't apply.
Second, the strain relief system is "working" but not all that brilliant (see Photo 3 above). Myself I can see ways to improve that significantly with judicial use of heat shrink sleeve, etc.
Third, I just bought the plugs and sockets shown above as a simple one off customer wandering off the street into my local DIY branch. Apart seeing the label "Made in PRC" on them, I've no idea if they're currently available in UK (I doubt it). Nor if the DIY chain concerned would even be interested in trying to tie up some sort of deal for a quantity purchase.
But IF UK members are interested I'd certainly be willing to make some "official" enquiries - obviously NO promises though.
But PM me if interested, because IMO, this could be "the answer to the maiden's prayer" - perhaps even UK maidens!
AES