High quality Pin Vice?

[jamesevenlode]

My new Axminster AT3202 pillar drill only accepts 5mm+ bits.
I have a couple of cheaper pin vices (from Axminster) but they aren't brilliant and seem to loosen during use.
What are you guys using in the larger drills for smaller bits?

 

[jamesevenlode]

Please disregard, apparently Axminster offer replacement chucks for these for sizes from 0-13mm or 3-16mm.
Part numbers from Axminster are 700404, 700405 (and you need 700409 too) in case someone in the future comes across the same problem and this comes up in a search.

 

[ColeyS1]

I'm after a similar answer if that's o.k. I use a pin vice in a cordless drill for fitting ironmongery. It's great cause the chucks so small it doesn't rub against the wood- only problem is the chuck always works loose. Be good to here of any recommendations. The one I use now came in a set of 4, cheep and nasty I guess

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[chipmunk]

For a really quality solution, this might be of interest...

http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Chucks/Drill-Chuck-Arbors

Hope this helps
Jon

 

[Cheshirechappie]

The old Eclipse pin-vice is pretty much the 'industry standard' at the quality end of the market, now distributed by Spear and Jackson. It's probably not the cheapest available, and has the disadvantage of three small collets to lose, but it's nicely made (at least, the older ones were), and used with care it'll last a lifetime; it'll hold from 0 to about 2.5mm. There's a button on the right-hand side of the linked page to find a local dealer, or internet suppliers such as Cromwell Industrial Tools will have them.

http://www.spear-and-jackson.com/produc ... nt-collets

Another solution (as the OP discovered!) may be to replace the chuck with one having a holding range closer to that required. Jacobs do a pretty fair range of high-quality chucks, with fittings to suit most drilling machine spindles.

 

[ColeyS1]

I spotted those but wasn't sure if they were 'meant' to be used in a power drill. All the links I found were people using them by rotating them with their fingers. I
I'll add it to my wishlist.
Thanks
Coley

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[Cheshirechappie]

Just in case anybody might be confused, there are pin CHUCKS and pin VICES. The former are intended for holding small drills in larger drill chucks, the latter are intended for holding round stock to be worked on.

These are pin vices - http://www.spear-and-jackson.com/produc ... /pin-vices

I have used them as holders for very small drills when drilling by hand; an old-fashioned drawing pin spike-down in the top of the handle makes an improvised pad for the palm of the hand. Far more sensitive than using a cordless drill, so fewer drill breakages, but only suitable for drills of about 1mm or less. Not really an everyday woodworker's tool unless you do very small, fiddly work.

 

[jamesevenlode]

The old Eclipse pin-vice is pretty much the 'industry standard' at the quality end of the market, now distributed by Spear and Jackson. It's probably not the cheapest available, and has the disadvantage of three small collets to lose, but it's nicely made (at least, the older ones were), and used with care it'll last a lifetime; it'll hold from 0 to about 2.5mm. There's a button on the right-hand side of the linked page to find a local dealer, or internet suppliers such as Cromwell Industrial Tools will have them.

http://www.spear-and-jackson.com/produc ... nt-collets

Another solution (as the OP discovered!) may be to replace the chuck with one having a holding range closer to that required. Jacobs do a pretty fair range of high-quality chucks, with fittings to suit most drilling machine spindles.

Cheers for this.
I'm struggling to find it on Cromwells site- do you know if this is the same thing?
http://uk.farnell.com/eclipse/160/pin-chuck/dp/442926
Looks like it but just wanted to confirm.

Edit actually, I found it on Cromwells.
Cheers.

 

[Eric The Viking]

I have used them as holders for very small drills when drilling by hand; an old-fashioned drawing pin spike-down in the top of the handle makes an improvised pad for the palm of the hand. Far more sensitive than using a cordless drill, so fewer drill breakages, but only suitable for drills of about 1mm or less. Not really an everyday woodworker's tool unless you do very small, fiddly work.

Ditto. My use is usually drilling paxolin circuit boards (electronics), and the very manual method can be really helpful, especially if I'm trying not to lift off a copper track.

I've got a Röhm keyless chuck for the pillar drill that goes down to 1/2mm officially. It's asking a lot (as they have to whizz round at astronomic RPM for metals), but it's fine at 1mm.

 

[Droogs]

Believe it or not but Maplins do a pretty good one for under a tenner that has a hex shaft and takes 0 - 6.35mm(1/4)

http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/keyless-chuck-a95qw