Smudger
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Aren't firefighters trained as paramedics?
Smudger":3p7938mx said:Aren't firefighters trained as paramedics?
Smudger":3g4m4kk1 said:As far as I know (my firefighter friend retired a year or more ago) it is a voluntary thing, and many are trained, but not to the same degree as an ambulance service paramedic.
My point here is that we see so many of these stories which are seized upon and shown as evidence of 'PC gorn mad' or 'elf 'n safety gorn mad', whipped up by Richard Lidljohn and his ilk - and when examined, they just aren't true. You need a higher level of proof than some (often anonymous) reporter, often fixing the facts to fit into an agenda.
The result has been that many people actually seem to believe that firefighters and other public service workers really do have elf 'n safety inspectors dogging their footsteps, that the 'PC Brigade' will stop them acting sensibly. In most cases it just isn't true.
Incidentally, this also makes it very unlikely that in the cases where bureacracy (for that is what it really is) overcomes sense, any one will do anything, for fear of the Littlejohn/Mail/Express reaction.
but not why that ban was put in place. It is easy to assume that it is for some trivial reason, but it may not have been. I would automatically assume that firefighters are trained and fit to use it and I'm not - so some other arrangements would be made for me, possibly such as used by mountain rescue teams.But a memo from Strathclyde Fire and Rescue chiefs four months earlier had banned the use of rope equipment for lifting members of the public to safety, the inquiry was told.
RogerS":2ql6jknx said:Smudger":2ql6jknx said:Aren't firefighters trained as paramedics?
As far as I can tell and purely based on research on the internet, the training is not comparable to a dedicated paramedic. But will bow to anyone in the fire service who can say one way or the other.
Smudger":uzcvy28v said:.
Alexander Dunne says that he saw she had a head injury, and that he 'just wanted to pull her out' - which may well have made her injuries worse, and even I with my teacher-first aid training know that you don't lug people with head injuries about, certainly not at the end of ropes.
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Digit":fz6ccr9q said:Wouldn't life be dull without humour?
Roy.
studders":z4rky1se said:Laugh for no reason and you get a nice, tight white jacket and a comfy room to yourself.
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