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So, folks, a question.

Do any of you use the "golden ratio" of approximately 1:1.618 for aesthetically pleasing results - or do you stick to decimals and fractions like a quarter and a half?

J

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So, folks, a question.

Do any of you use the "golden ratio" of approximately 1:1.618 for aesthetically pleasing results - or do you stick to decimals and fractions like a quarter and a half?

J

As the rule is to be used with regard to aesthetics, naming it after the golden ratio seems closer to its purpose.

Fibonacci only comes in to his own if you want two whole numbers (ratios of integers) that are close to the golden ratio and you do not need a fancy device to measure 21 units in one direction and 13 in the other.

"Golden ratio" is just a popular but meaningless semi-mystical myth. There's a lot of it about!

I always understood the "golden ratio" to be the relationship of a side of a pentagon to its diagonal. And the Fibonacci sequence to be the way an idealised population of rabbits could be expected to increase in number.

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It might be because Fibonacci was the first one to document it in writing, which is similar to Hooke and his hanging chain theory, the principal of which was probably known by the Romans.

As the rule is to be used with regard to aesthetics, naming it after the golden ratio seems closer to its purpose.

Fibonacci only comes in to his own if you want two whole numbers (ratios of integers) that are close to the golden ratio and you do not need a fancy device to measure 21 units in one direction and 13 in the other.

The geometric form originates in the vesica piscis or mandala, a significant sacred geometric form used in that 15th century fan vault pattern I was researching a while back. The mandala was used in India well before Christ appeared on the scene.

That no.4 shaped bit is the source of the golden ratio and the lozenge shape in two circles which overlap is the mandala and the fish symbol of Christ.

That daisy shape is another big deal and is seen inscribed on buildings all over the place.

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Oh Jaoob"Golden ratio" is just a popular but meaningless semi-mystical myth

It's long been known in design that dimensions and their relationship to one another is very important.

https://www.likvietnam.com/en/content/21-feng-shui-calculator

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lu_Ban

You just gave him oxygen, prepare for the onslaughtIs that anything like a Luban ruler ?

Oh Jaoob

It's long been known in design that dimensions and their relationship to one another is very important.

https://www.likvietnam.com/en/content/21-feng-shui-calculator

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lu_Ban

Maybe there was originally stuff in feng-shui that made sense, but most of it seems to be total BS. On a level with tarot cards, homeopathy and religion.Is that anything like a Luban ruler ?

Oh Jaoob

It's long been known in design that dimensions and their relationship to one another is very important.

https://www.likvietnam.com/en/content/21-feng-shui-calculator

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lu_Ban

In my opinion.

It's surprising how many things that just seem to look "right" approach that ratio.

If beauty truly is "in the eye of the beholder". then there is no way that it can rely on a specific formula. Lots of other things do come into play in design, and one has to trust ones own instincts.

Whether something looks good or is "just right", depends on ones first impression. That renewed glimpse of ones work after having not having seen it for a while can give one a valuable insight. And, if you are not pleased with it - then change it, or start again.

Yep, that's it. 5+8=13, 8+13=21 etc.

The Fibonacci proportions apply in almost all areas of stringed instrument making, beginning with the scroll-shape of a (classical) violin head, to the outlines of guitars and lutes. Kevin Coates's 1985 book 'Geometry, Proportion, and the Art of Lutherie' (Oxford University Press) is well worth seeking out.

So, folks, a question.

Do any of you use the "golden ratio" of approximately 1:1.618 for aesthetically pleasing results - or do you stick to decimals and fractions like a quarter and a half?

J

It certainly is found in nature, the female leg (the two components: thigh to knee, and knee to ankle) being good examples of the Golden Section.

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