nev
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If anyones after a chuck with a limited budget, one of the well known woodworking shops has a precision scroll chuck on offer for a day or two! you could do a lot worse for 70 quid!
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John. B
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Snag here Nev,
is that it only fits thread sizes of 3/4" x 16tpi and 1" x 8tpi threaded lathes
Medium tensile steel, not hard tool steel.
Expansion grip of 70mm
Compression grip of 55mm
which means a very limited capacity.
John. B
is that it only fits thread sizes of 3/4" x 16tpi and 1" x 8tpi threaded lathes
Medium tensile steel, not hard tool steel.
Expansion grip of 70mm
Compression grip of 55mm
which means a very limited capacity.
John. B
nev
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all true John and worth noting, but..
if its the correct thread and other jaws are available (which they are) its not a bad buy.
Although the exp/comp gap is only 15 - 20 mm you will of course usually create the optimum size tenon/ recess to gain the most grip.
I don't know what the difference between the steels will make in use. I'm guessing the harder steel will flex less and live longer and ideally be preferable but in reality will that make much of a difference in use clamping small bits of wood?
if its the correct thread and other jaws are available (which they are) its not a bad buy.
Although the exp/comp gap is only 15 - 20 mm you will of course usually create the optimum size tenon/ recess to gain the most grip.
I don't know what the difference between the steels will make in use. I'm guessing the harder steel will flex less and live longer and ideally be preferable but in reality will that make much of a difference in use clamping small bits of wood?
monkeybiter
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John. B":6jshn588 said:
Maybe not the best chuck in the world but the capacity is ample for most if not all hobby turning jobs, my main chuck [Axi not this Rutlands offering] has very similar capacity with standard jaws and is good for platters, hollow forms, goblets and conventional spindles. At first glance this one appears to have indexing marks/holes on the backplate too, which mine doesn't have.
Paul Hannaby
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I wouldn't have thought your average chuck was made from hardened tool steel anyway. The scrolls and jaw carriers might be hardened but not the chuck body and jaws.
The dimensions for expansion / compression usually refer to the optimum circle diameter so they are specific to that size jaw and aren't an indication of range for the chuck.
The dimensions for expansion / compression usually refer to the optimum circle diameter so they are specific to that size jaw and aren't an indication of range for the chuck.
Silverbirch
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Having had one of these for my previous lathe, it's a good budget buy, at half the price or less of the better known brands.
Ian
Ian
Random Orbital Bob
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I must say I was thinking "whats the catch" because its so cheap I was wondering whats wrong with it??? If its reasonable that's a serious bargain
Looking at the adverts its for the chuck body only. Add £20+ for each set of jaws and you soon get up to the price that another well known company are selling the Nova chucks with 3 sets of jaws and screw chuck Bundled.
Will be looking into it at the Show on Friday
Will be looking into it at the Show on Friday
Harry 48
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Hi I have used the Dakota XT 700 for about five years and have never had a problem with it come with standard jaws and wood screw its more or less the same as the Fox chuck
Random Orbital Bob
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procell":3orzqdny said:Looking at the adverts its for the chuck body only. Add £20+ for each set of jaws and you soon get up to the price that another well known company are selling the Nova chucks with 3 sets of jaws and screw chuck Bundled.
Will be looking into it at the Show on Friday
Slightly confused there Procell. I looked at the Rutlands link also (I got the promo mail) and I thought it said it comes with the 50-70mm jaws and a woodworm screw and in either 3/4" x 16tpi or 1" x 8tpi spindle sizes?? maybe I read it wrong.
Robbo3
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Link - http://www.rutlands.co.uk/sp+precision- ... huck+XT700
"This chuck is supplied with a 3/4" x 16tpi threaded adaptor and is directly threaded 1" x 8tpi ......
The chuck comes with a set of standard jaws offering an expansion grip of 70mm and a compression grip of 55mm, a wood screw for mounting smaller pieces and a fast action allen key. "
HTH
"This chuck is supplied with a 3/4" x 16tpi threaded adaptor and is directly threaded 1" x 8tpi ......
The chuck comes with a set of standard jaws offering an expansion grip of 70mm and a compression grip of 55mm, a wood screw for mounting smaller pieces and a fast action allen key. "
HTH
Random Orbital Bob
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Yup. Thought so. That's good value
paulm
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Suspect it's very similar, or possibly even the same, as the cheap Warco version I got a couple of years ago for a similar price, they likely mainly come from the same original maufacturer and are just rebranded.
The fit of the jaw carriers in mine is noticably loose in the housing slots compared to upmarket chucks, but doesn't seem to matter in practice when tightened up on a workpiece, seems to work perfectly fine and well worth the money to use as an only chuck, or if like me you accumulate a few different ones to avoid swapping jaws over so much !
Cheers, Paul
The fit of the jaw carriers in mine is noticably loose in the housing slots compared to upmarket chucks, but doesn't seem to matter in practice when tightened up on a workpiece, seems to work perfectly fine and well worth the money to use as an only chuck, or if like me you accumulate a few different ones to avoid swapping jaws over so much !
Cheers, Paul
I was obviously looking at the wrong site. I didn't see a link in the initial post so did a search on chucks and only found the Axminster and Fox ones at that price. However I stand by my comment that the Nova G3 advertised by Record is good value as you get 3 sets of jaws in the package for £119 so the extra £49 is less than the cost of the two extra sets of jaws.
http://www.recordpower.co.uk/product/g3 ... 4-x-16-tpi
http://www.recordpower.co.uk/product/g3 ... 4-x-16-tpi
Spindle
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Hi
I've had an XT700 for several years now and I can't fault it, it's a direct copy of the Supernova 2 - all dimensions and ranges are identical. It compares favourably with my other Supernova and Supernova 2 chucks and if I needed to source another chuck I'd not hesitate to get one at this price. Record Power, Teknatool, Sorby Patriot jaws are all compatable.
Regards Mick
I've had an XT700 for several years now and I can't fault it, it's a direct copy of the Supernova 2 - all dimensions and ranges are identical. It compares favourably with my other Supernova and Supernova 2 chucks and if I needed to source another chuck I'd not hesitate to get one at this price. Record Power, Teknatool, Sorby Patriot jaws are all compatable.
Regards Mick
Out of curiosity, are both chucks (Record G3 and XT700 ) compatible with the same type of jaws, spigots and so on?
I am considering getting my first chuck and like the idea of having three sets of jaws, as they would probably cover most of my needs for experimenting (I have only started turning two days ago, practising my spindle catches.. no sorry, skew skills I think they are called ).
However, I would go for the XT700 if it gives me more choice as for jaws brands in the future. Mostly because those I see on Record's website seem a bit expensive compared to say axminster, and for sure at some point I'll get at least a plates to mount wood jaws and probably a long spigot).
Thanks in advance for any advice
I am considering getting my first chuck and like the idea of having three sets of jaws, as they would probably cover most of my needs for experimenting (I have only started turning two days ago, practising my spindle catches.. no sorry, skew skills I think they are called
).However, I would go for the XT700 if it gives me more choice as for jaws brands in the future. Mostly because those I see on Record's website seem a bit expensive compared to say axminster, and for sure at some point I'll get at least a plates to mount wood jaws and probably a long spigot).
Thanks in advance for any advice
Doofusme
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The G3 is basically a Nova chuck so will accept a vast array of 3rd party jaws like all Nova chucks. The only downside is the G3 is a smaller chuck made for mini/midi lathes so is not suitable for the very large jaws some chuck will take. Both chucks have adaptor inserts so they can be adapted to various spindle sizes (unless you buy the ready made 3/4 x 16 version).
I am only a novice but reading the threads here and doing some research online it seems the main difference is the construction materials. The G3 is made from K145 High tensile steel whereas the XT700 is made from Medium Tensile steel. However the xt700 does have indexing plate and is sealed at the back as standard. The G3 is open backed for easy cleaning and does not have indexing.
I am only a novice but reading the threads here and doing some research online it seems the main difference is the construction materials. The G3 is made from K145 High tensile steel whereas the XT700 is made from Medium Tensile steel. However the xt700 does have indexing plate and is sealed at the back as standard. The G3 is open backed for easy cleaning and does not have indexing.
Spindle
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Hi
As I said previously - the XT700 is a clone of the Supernova 2 chuck, (not the Supernova / G3).
In addition to the physical dimension difference the G3 has a specific type of chuck key wheras the XT700 / Supernova 2 uses a standard hex key drive and has an enclosing backplate with indexing facility
If you are considering purchasing this chuck I suggest you compare it to a Supernova 2 and not the G3.
Regards Mick
As I said previously - the XT700 is a clone of the Supernova 2 chuck, (not the Supernova / G3).
In addition to the physical dimension difference the G3 has a specific type of chuck key wheras the XT700 / Supernova 2 uses a standard hex key drive and has an enclosing backplate with indexing facility
If you are considering purchasing this chuck I suggest you compare it to a Supernova 2 and not the G3.
Regards Mick
Random Orbital Bob
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I think the deals finished now anyway.
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