Bosch or Festool swoppy-over chuck drills?

[RossJarvis]

Having been cursing about the inaccessibility of too many screws lately, I'm wondering whether it's worth getting a Festool T 18 + 3, or Bosch GSR 18 V-EC FC2, with all the chuckie things. Wouldn't go for the Metabo Quick as they don't seem to do a concentric chuck.

I'd rather a Makita, due to already having LXT chargers and batteries but they don't do one.

Against: they are pricey. For: you can do up those awkward b****y screws.

On experience I rate Festool much higher than Bosch, but the Bosch does have a handy SDS hammer chuck and gets a bit more for the cash.

Anyone got experience of either of the above and do they solve those awkward to get to jobs? Or should I spend my hard-gotten on more black vinyl and red vino?

 

[sunnybob]

vinyl znd vino works for me. If the screws that hard to get to, then its just not meant to be.

 

[RossJarvis]

vinyl znd vino works for me. If the screws that hard to get to, then its just not meant to be.

:lol:

 

[Roughcut]

Having been cursing about the inaccessibility of too many screws lately, I'm wondering whether it's worth getting a Festool T 18 + 3, or Bosch GSR 18 V-EC FC2, with all the chuckie things. Wouldn't go for the Metabo Quick as they don't seem to do a concentric chuck.

I'd rather a Makita, due to already having LXT chargers and batteries but they don't do one.

Against: they are pricey. For: you can do up those awkward b****y screws.

On experience I rate Festool much higher than Bosch, but the Bosch does have a handy SDS hammer chuck and gets a bit more for the cash.

Anyone got experience of either of the above and do they solve those awkward to get to jobs? Or should I spend my hard-gotten on more black vinyl and red vino?

Hi Ross I assume you are hinting that the Metabo has some sort of "chuck run out" problem?
Is this something you have experienced personally or just hearsay?

 

[RossJarvis]

Having been cursing about the inaccessibility of too many screws lately, I'm wondering whether it's worth getting a Festool T 18 + 3, or Bosch GSR 18 V-EC FC2, with all the chuckie things. Wouldn't go for the Metabo Quick as they don't seem to do a concentric chuck.

I'd rather a Makita, due to already having LXT chargers and batteries but they don't do one.

Against: they are pricey. For: you can do up those awkward b****y screws.

On experience I rate Festool much higher than Bosch, but the Bosch does have a handy SDS hammer chuck and gets a bit more for the cash.

Anyone got experience of either of the above and do they solve those awkward to get to jobs? Or should I spend my hard-gotten on more black vinyl and red vino?

Hi Ross I assume you are hinting that the Metabo has some sort of "chuck run out" problem?
Is this something you have experienced personally or just hearsay?

Unfortunately I got the word wrong and meant "eccentric" chuck. I.e. one in line with the drill and off to the side. I have no experience of problems with Metabo and didn't mean to imply any. It just seems that they don't seem to do one of these off-line chucks which look to be a good idea, particularly getting screw into cupboard corners.

 

[Distinterior]

I have the Festool C15 Set and it came with the 360 degree right angled chuck, the eccentric chuck, as well as Festools Centrotec chuck and a normal quick release 3 jaw chuck.
As I mainly fit Kitchens, all of the chucks get a regular workout and it only takes a few seconds to swop between each chuck.
It's not a cheap drill by any means, but worth every penny in my opinion.

 

[RossJarvis]

I have the Festool C15 Set and it came with the 360 degree right angled chuck, the eccentric chuck, as well as Festools Centrotec chuck and a normal quick release 3 jaw chuck.
As I mainly fit Kitchens, all of the chucks get a regular workout and it only takes a few seconds to swop between each chuck.
It's not a cheap drill by any means, but worth every penny in my opinion.

Thanks Disinterior

 

[Roughcut]

I wasn't trying to defend Metabo's honour! :lol:
But I've got one of their little 10.8v drill drivers and on first use I thought it had a dodgy chuck.
On inspection the screwdriver bit holder that came with the drill had a tiny bit of slop which was enough for the bit to run out of true slightly.
I thought you might of had or heard of a similar experience.

 

[RossJarvis]

I wasn't trying to defend Metabo's honour! :lol:
But I've got one of their little 10.8v drill drivers and on first use I thought it had a dodgy chuck.
On inspection the screwdriver bit holder that came with the drill had a tiny bit of slop which was enough for the bit to run out of true slightly.
I thought you might of had or heard of a similar experience.

Nope, but my first top-of-the-range Makita LXT combo had a "wobbly" chuck which doesn't seem to be an uncommon problem with all makes for some reason.

I'm glad I'm a chippy now and not an engineer any more. I'm much more generous with my tolerances 8)

 

[Droogs]

why not save a fortune for vino rosso and a few picture 45's and just buy a lot of bit holders or a really long bit set

 

[RossJarvis]

Regrettably, due to the application of too much vino tinto last night, my email now tells me I've actually bought a C-18 full set. I think I shall be soberly watching my gramophone rotate for a long time before I can put a new big black CD on the thing!

 

[Wuffles]

Regrettably, due to the application of too much vino tinto last night, my email now tells me I've actually bought a C-18 full set. I think I shall be soberly watching my gramophone rotate for a long time before I can put a new big black CD on the thing!

I looked at getting an eccentric chuck for my T18 (I bought bare) and cried. Keep watching out for them second hand, so you won't really regret that "set" purchase.

 

[RossJarvis]

Regrettably, due to the application of too much vino tinto last night, my email now tells me I've actually bought a C-18 full set. I think I shall be soberly watching my gramophone rotate for a long time before I can put a new big black CD on the thing!

I looked at getting an eccentric chuck for my T18 (I bought bare) and cried. Keep watching out for them second hand, so you won't really regret that "set" purchase.

Luckily the full set has everything apart from the "depth-stop" chuck. I didn't want to make the mistake of buying the bits and bobs later at Festool prices, I do want to have some money before the end of the year.

 

[Wuffles]

Regrettably, due to the application of too much vino tinto last night, my email now tells me I've actually bought a C-18 full set. I think I shall be soberly watching my gramophone rotate for a long time before I can put a new big black CD on the thing!

I looked at getting an eccentric chuck for my T18 (I bought bare) and cried. Keep watching out for them second hand, so you won't really regret that "set" purchase.

Luckily the full set has everything apart from the "depth-stop" chuck. I didn't want to make the mistake of buying the bits and bobs later at Festool prices, I do want to have some money before the end of the year.

Sorry, reading back what I wrote, I missed an "I". I keep looking for the eccentric chuck as obviously my bare came with nothing. I actually thought the depth stop came with the set too, handled one previously and it looked like the worst accessory available.

 

[RossJarvis]

I actually thought the depth stop came with the set too, handled one previously and it looked like the worst accessory available.

I'm fairly sure I can live without the "depth-stop" chuck. It appears to be mainly for screwing plaster-board and avoiding running the screw in too deeply.

 

[Wuffles]

I actually thought the depth stop came with the set too, handled one previously and it looked like the worst accessory available.

I'm fairly sure I can live without the "depth-stop" chuck. It appears to be mainly for screwing plaster-board and avoiding running the screw in too deeply.

A £1.50 drywall bit with collar probably does a better job.

 

[pcb1962]

I actually thought the depth stop came with the set too, handled one previously and it looked like the worst accessory available.

I'm fairly sure I can live without the "depth-stop" chuck. It appears to be mainly for screwing plaster-board and avoiding running the screw in too deeply.

As Wuffles says, if you ever need that facility these are a much cheaper alternative http://www.screwfix.com/p/titan-drywall-bits-ph-2-x-29mm-pack-of-5/9774g