I found this piece in the odds box(everybody has one), it looked a bit short for a pen,but with some thought and careful drilling, I managed it. Two pieces of black acrylic were added and a nice piece of burr Elm was saved from hitting the bin.The LOML has ditched the old plastic Bic pen and now uses this one. Ho hum, have another rummage in the odds box #-o #-o #-o