Mosley and sons plane.

[undergroundhunter]

Hi guys,

I have just bought this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OLD-WOODE...lectable_ToolsHasdware_RL&hash=item20dfe81fca. looks to be in good condition. Anyone have any info on these?

Thanks Matt

 

[AndyT]

It's a moving fillister. Condition looks ok from the pictures. Very useful planes. The common iron equivalent was the Stanley or Record 78/788. I think the wooden ones work better, especially across the grain, because of the skewed iron. As far as I can see from the eBay pics the mark dates to 1831-7, according to BPM III.

 

[ac445ab]

I think the wooden ones work better, especially across the grain, because of the skewed iron.

I agree and I find their grip better also. The lack of a handle seems to me offer more control.

Ciao
Giuliano

 

[undergroundhunter]

It's a moving fillister. Condition looks ok from the pictures. Very useful planes. The common iron equivalent was the Stanley or Record 78/788. I think the wooden ones work better, especially across the grain, because of the skewed iron. As far as I can see from the eBay pics the mark dates to 1831-7, according to BPM III.

I was aware it was a moving fillister, I did not know it was knocking on for 200 years old . Thanks for that Andy T.

Any info on the company who made it?

Matt

 

[AndyT]

They were one of the most productive London Planemakers starting in the C18th and flourishing until the end of the C19th when they were absorbed by Marples who moved production to Sheffield where they continued to make planes marked with what was presumably a well respected name.

 

[Sheffield Tony]

So you bought that. I looked at it for a while. It looks like you'll be in the market for a bit of boxwood to replace the strip behind the cutter. Otherwise a nice buy.

 

[undergroundhunter]

So you bought that. I looked at it for a while. It looks like you'll be in the market for a bit of boxwood to replace the strip behind the cutter. Otherwise a nice buy.

I have to say well spotted I never even spotted that ! I will take a look when it arravies.

Thanks

Matt

 

[Racers]

I had to replace the fence and plug and redrill the adjustment screws holes and make a nicker blade on mine, but apart from that it was perfect :shock:

You should be able to replace the missing bit
I buy boxwood rules from car-boots when ever I see them its a good source of long straight pieces.

Pete

 

[tobytools]

Pete,
That's a good tip for replacing boxing in planes, old rules. I chucked a few old woodies I got in a joblot a while ago and stripped them of all there boxing, irons, wedges you name it.
TT

 

[AndyT]

Gosh yes, missing rear boxing. I missed that too when I had a quick look earlier on a tablet that didn't play nicely to enlarge the photos from the original listing. Looking again now on a proper PC it's obvious. At least it's one of the simpler patterns of boxing - some fillister planes had three full length sliding dovetails on the boxing. Cutting the grooves to receive them needed its own set of specialist planes.

At least your fence retaining screws are in decent shape - though they can be replaced; you just need to find space for a suitably antique lathe: like I did.

 

[undergroundhunter]

So all in all I seem to have a decent plane that just needs a new piece of boxing. A good result I think. Now for the next question what glue should I use once I have found some boxwood, on hand I have some D4 PVA and some cascamite. Thanks for the advice guys.

Matt

 

[AndyT]

Either would work but I would use hide glue. I like the Titebond brand liquid version - no need for a heated glue pot, but the very strong bond is reversible if needed and you get quite a long open time, which is a big help on complex assembly jobs.

You'll need something fairly thin on the long tonguing, I think.

 

[undergroundhunter]

Thanks again Andy T, as I was typing the question I thought about buying some Titebond hide glue. I will report back with pictures when it arrives.

Matt

 

[undergroundhunter]

The plane arrived safe and sound. I have very kindly had some english boxwood donated from Stuart on the forum (who I cannot thank enough), he sent me a very nice letter with it telling me it came from a statley home about 20 years ago so it sould be seasoned nicely. I'm going to make a start this weekend (hopefully I will get time). I will do a mini wip if anyone is interested.

Matt

 

[AndyT]

Yes please to a wip. I hope this isn't your only plane, or it could be quite a struggle!

 

[undergroundhunter]

Its my 2nd woodie I will include a photo of the rest of the "collection".