Funny face stamp

[wjordan]

Can someone, please, help with identifying the maker who used this funny face as trademark? The Burys marks I've found look quite different. His name probably starts with WILLIAM, the rest is unreadable due to incomplete stamping.

Wolfgang

 

[Mr_P]

No help here

http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Burys_and_Co

Looks more like old weighing scales rather than a face to me, a bit like Lady Justice carries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Justice

 

[J_Cramer]

Maybe it is

William Ash & Co.

http://swingleydev.com/ot/get/174006/thread/

The corrosive damage looks pretty severe so maybe those are the remnants of a trademark like this:

https://www.avito.ru/sankt-peterburg/ko ... _554965149



Jürgen

 

[sunnybob]

Found this....

Regarding the double iron (iron & cap iron), BURYS & Co. was formed in
1863, and continued in business, at Regent Works, Penistone Road,
Sheffield, until about 1965. They became a "Limited" firm by 1879 - so,
if "Ltd." is not included in the mark, your double iron probably
pre-dates 1879. I.e., it was likely made between 1863 and 1879.

 

[sunnybob]

And this, might help for further links

http://openplaques.org/people/6949

 

[wjordan]

Maybe it is

William Ash & Co.

http://swingleydev.com/ot/get/174006/thread/

The corrosive damage looks pretty severe so maybe those are the remnants of a trademark like this:

https://www.avito.ru/sankt-peterburg/ko ... _554965149



Jürgen

This mark looks pretty close, so the face is actually part of a crown? I examined the iron again with a magnifier. There is no heavy corrosion in this area. I can see the face very clear, but nothing around it. On the other hand, the eyes and the mouth of the face have their counterparts in the crown. Very strange!

Wolfgang

 

[bugbear]

Wolfgang

What on earth photographic technique and/or lighting/processing did you use to make that image?

BugBear

 

[wjordan]

What on earth photographic technique and/or lighting/processing did you use to make that image?

BugBear

Nothing special, just raking sunlight and my smartphone camera. One of these days I will try your photographic lighting trick with a glass pane.

Wolfgang

 

[J_Cramer]

This mark looks pretty close, so the face is actually part of a crown? I examined the iron again with a magnifier. There is no heavy corrosion in this area. I can see the face very clear, but nothing around it. On the other hand, the eyes and the mouth of the face have their counterparts in the crown. Very strange!

Wolfgang

Yes, it rather looks like faulty stamping. Maybe it was meant to be a crown or a lily (fleur de lis). Both marks have been used by Burys/Wm. Ash & Co and are listed in here (p. 25 and 56):

https://sha.org/assets/documents/Tradem ... leware.pdf


Example for the flower

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Old-WM- ... 1c65010b3c


Jürgen

 

[bugbear]

What on earth photographic technique and/or lighting/processing did you use to make that image?

BugBear

Nothing special, just raking sunlight and my smartphone camera. One of these days I will try your photographic lighting trick with a glass pane.

Wolfgang

Aah - I think the close up (and lack of other context) has driven your phone's auto-white-balance crazy.

And, yes, axial lighting and a macro lens do a nice job, but it's quite fiddly.

BugBear

 

[AndyT]

I think that's an impressive example of getting the missing name (ie William Ash) from a partial image, and am willing to believe that the funny face is a remnant of the crown design, with a less than perfect stamping made worse by rust.

Jurgen, are you in the habit of watching Russian second hand sites for examples of tool trademarks? It's certainly a new one for me.