Death of F1

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The end started many years ago when the bernie and max show rolled into town and took over - angry? no, slightly disapointed but its been fairly obvious that this might happen for a while.

Glad I'm not an avid viewer of the f1 these days, think my dads going to be pineappled off tho :D
 
tomatwark":1mjlsmux said:
I have a basic Sky Package already, but can't justify the extra for F1.

Since I started this thread, whilst woodworking away I have worked out that all the channels my wife and I watch except 1 are on Freeview, and the thing we watch on that one is available on DVD box set.

Just done the sums and the cost of the box set and a freeview recorder ( I like the record bit on Sky ) will save me about £ 100 in the first year and nearly £300 after that, so I think a call will be made to Sky in the next few days.

So while I am not happy about the F1, it looks like Sky has done me a favour in that I will save some money.

Tom
Be prepared Tom to have Sky ring you several times a week for at least a few years to convince you with wonderful offers that you should return! We've got a phone that gives you the caller's number so we know if it's Sky again and just ignore the call but they're very persistent.
Regards Keith
 
Been through that a few years ago at my old address.

We have registered for Telephone Preference Service here so will use that against them and threaten to report them to BT.

So once I have cancelled my account they have no right to ring me and will be told so.

Tom
 
Yes a very sad day,it is my favourite sport. How anyone could compare f1 and BBC4 :evil: . I have said before folk should go to a GP to calibrate themselves with just how hard and technically challenging it is. I guess seeing some of the cars folk drive not everyone is a petrol head, and I have to accept it is a minority sport. Hate sky I feel like a rant but I need to calm down. Forgot to say there is always the darts to watch :evil:
 
The Eriba Turner":253mkpva said:
tomatwark":253mkpva said:
I have a basic Sky Package already, but can't justify the extra for F1.

Since I started this thread, whilst woodworking away I have worked out that all the channels my wife and I watch except 1 are on Freeview, and the thing we watch on that one is available on DVD box set.

Just done the sums and the cost of the box set and a freeview recorder ( I like the record bit on Sky ) will save me about £ 100 in the first year and nearly £300 after that, so I think a call will be made to Sky in the next few days.

So while I am not happy about the F1, it looks like Sky has done me a favour in that I will save some money.

Tom
Be prepared Tom to have Sky ring you several times a week for at least a few years to convince you with wonderful offers that you should return! We've got a phone that gives you the caller's number so we know if it's Sky again and just ignore the call but they're very persistent.
Regards Keith

+1

I got rid of them a year ago and still get phone and postal offers to "go back"..
The only thing I miss about sky is the record feature of the sky box, simply because with 2 young kids it was a god send to pause my program and do what I needed to then press play again.

Ryan
 
knappers":13fupkv5 said:
Sorry, but if it was between F1 and BBC4, no contest, BBC4 has to go.

Si.

I'm with you Si - BBC4 is mostly repeats or rubbish IMO.

As follower of F1 for many years I am extremely disappointed though the BBC seem cock-a-hoop that they are able to show highlights of half the races. I don't want to see the bloody highlights - I want to watch it as it happens but don't want to give sky any of my hard earned.

really p****d off :evil: :evil:

Bob
 
I have followed F1 for years and years, but having to be BLACKMAILED into paying to watch it,,,, forget it, they can stick it. :evil:
 
I too am saddened by the news but understand why the BBC are having to scale down it's coverage.
Their funding is being cut so savings have to be made.
What really annoys me is the increased commercialisation of all sports and the constant search of their respective governing bodies to maximise their "incomes".
By doing so they effectively limit the coverage of their sport to the wider public and which in the long term will have a negative effect on that sports viability.
By limiting its availability it will reduce it's fan base and eventually lead to the sports decline?
I personally think all major sports should be free to air and receive moderate recompense. The true fan base will increase and therefore their revenues?

Rod
 
People complain about the TV licence fee of £145 a year but that does pay for, amongst other things, advertisement free channels, heaps of original programming and proper live programmes. Plus excellent, advertisement free live radio!

Sky or Virgin cable costs double that for advertisement ridden repeats of older BBC/ITV output, lots of ancient American programmes, selling channels and general dross all churned out without the proper continuity of live broadcasting - on top of that the premium sports channels cost a lot extra.

I'd rather pay double the licence fee for half a dozen or so well run advertisement free channels with a very strong budget to get back the content Murdoch et all have stolen.
 
RogerP":10p3nysp said:
People complain about the TV licence fee of £145 a year but that does pay for, amongst other things, advertisement free channels, heaps of original programming and proper live programmes. Plus excellent, advertisement free live radio!

Sky or Virgin cable costs double that for advertisement ridden repeats of older BBC/ITV output, lots of ancient American programmes, selling channels and general dross all churned out without the proper continuity of live broadcasting - on top of that the premium sports channels cost a lot extra.

I'd rather pay double the licence fee for half a dozen or so well run advertisement free channels with a very strong budget to get back the content Murdoch et all have stolen.

While we are at it, I'd like to win the hundred meters in the Olympics.
 
Wow, I think some folks here need to take a breath and calm down - the 'death' of F1? Really? The BBC have probably made the best of a bad job with this arrangement - they would almost certainly have been outbid for the F1 rights when their current contract ended in 2014, so by doing this deal now they at least extend partial live coverage on the BBC for a few more years beyond that. Personally I'd like to see them dump all non-English language channels rather than lose full F1 coverage, but perhaps that's just me...

I'm no fan of the Murdoch family or their business practices, but visually at least, Sky has changed the coverage of sports events immeasurably for the better - I don't believe for a second that I'm the only person here old enough to remember when major football matches were covered by a single camera somewhere around the half-way line! No, I don't like adverts in live sports events either - look at ITVs early coverage of F1 to see how badly that could go - but then I don't like how the BBC continually advertises its programs between other programs either…

And as fine as the BBC is (for my money Clive James' famous quip about it being the 'least worst television in the world' sums it up…) let's not be too keen to hold them up as the gold standard in broadcasting as they still make their fair share of calamitous errors e.g. despite losing F1 to ITV for (was it nine??) years, then making a big push to bring it back to the beeb, it's taken them two seasons to get a decent F1 commentary team in place in the shape of Martin Brundle and David Coulthard - that's two solid seasons, 30-odd races of leaden speech (I wouldn't gild the lily by calling it 'commentary') from the desperate, dire Jonathan Legard, when it was plain to anyone who follows the sport (or any sport come to that) that the man simply wasn't up to the job.

Martin Brundle has also mentioned elsewhere that he's out of contract from 2012; I find it seriously, staggeringly short-sighted that the Beeb didn't tie down their main commentator for the duration of their F1 contract - maybe we'll see him on Sky in due course...

One last thing. Nobody wants to be press-ganged into paying more for their TV entertainment, but it's the 21st century, guys - £30-odd a month for a TV package that includes one of the best PVRs around (Sky+) and broadband access really isn't expensive these days (family pizza on a Friday night costs me more than that, weekly) and many people, including my octogenarian parents willingly pay it for the benefits it brings them - and a years worth of Sky subs is still a heck of a lot cheaper than actually going to watch just one F1 race live.

Cheers, Pete.

p.s. - if you hate ad-breaks during your favourite shows and have a PRV (e.g. Sky+) just start recording as soon as the prog begins, then wait ten minutes before hitting 'play'; as soon as the ads come on you can fast-forward through them. Doesn't do anything about the interruption, but it minimises it - you don't have to sit through the ads if you don't want to!
 
As far as I'm concerned the BBC can find the biggist bin it can find and dump F1 and all the other motor sport in it because I don't want any of it on my screen. It has a massive carbon footprint and would much rather watch more arts, culture and programmes on country and history that this ludicrous screeching and tedious event.
 
£30-odd a month for a TV package that includes one of the best PVRs around (Sky+) and broadband access really isn't expensive these days (family pizza on a Friday night costs me more than that, weekly)

I thought Sky packages were more like £60 a month for most people (at least those I've asked pay that sort of amount) + extra for premium sports channels? As for spending £30 every week on horrible fast food .... :shock:
 
Pete

As I have already said I half expected it go over to Sky in the end anyway, It is just sad that all the sports will be on Sky in a few years.

You obviously watch alot of sport and if I did I would not be so bothered about paying for the package, But I only watch F1 and therefore if I want to watch all the races I will have to sign up for a package I will not use most of the time.

I was cancelling Sky anyway as most of what my wife and I watch is on freeview and the rest is repeats.

I will miss Sky+ but at the end of the day it does mean I will have an extra £ 300 in my pocket to spend on my family instead which is really far more important than any sport ( football, cricket or F1).

Tom
 
RogerP":3cs3zgeq said:
People complain about the TV licence fee of £145 a year but that does pay for, amongst other things, advertisement free channels, heaps of original programming and proper live programmes. Plus excellent, advertisement free live radio!

The BBC I watch constantly advertises itself and personally, I find that almost as annoying as the commercial adverts Roger.


I'd rather pay double the licence fee

Well I certainly wouldn't and I strongly object to being forced to pay a licence for a TV even should I choose not to use the BBC facilities (inc radio). I do of course use them but it's just a tax with no choice but to pay up.

Bob
 
RogerP":cgb27vrx said:
I thought Sky packages were more like £60 a month for most people (at least those I've asked pay that sort of amount) + extra for premium sports channels?
<runs to check> Nope, £31.75 for Sky+ and Entertainment Pack and Sky Sports - here. Easy to spend more, obviously (we do) but that's the base price.

As for spending £30 every week on horrible fast food .... :shock:
Unsure as to wether your " :shock: " is a comment on the price, or my choice of foodstuffs. If it's concern over my health and wellbeing, you can rest assured that it's all part of a well-balanced diet - and FWIW the pizza we buy is neither fast, nor horrible :) If it was a comment on the price, well that was kind of my point...

tomatwark":cgb27vrx said:
I will miss Sky+ but at the end of the day it does mean I will have an extra £ 300 in my pocket to spend on my family instead which is really far more important than any sport ( football, cricket or F1).
Absolutely.

Cheers, Pete
 
I couldn't imagine spending north of £500 per annum for Sky. There aren't enough hours in the week to justify the expense (and I'm not going to watch more telly because I pay more!).

Anyway, this deal is far from settled. Rumour has it that the F1 teams themselves aren't happy with the smaller audience (it hits the teams' sponsorship deals!), and then there are matters like the commentary team working alternately for the BBC and Sky (or some other arrangement).

Incidentally, I thought home test matches were protected (i.e. to be available on at least one FTA channel). It's miserable that the current and previous one seemed to be Sky-only.
 
petermillard":3sx5ecne said:
p.s. - if you hate ad-breaks during your favourite shows and have a PRV (e.g. Sky+) just start recording as soon as the prog begins, then wait ten minutes before hitting 'play'; as soon as the ads come on you can fast-forward through them. Doesn't do anything about the interruption, but it minimises it - you don't have to sit through the ads if you don't want to!

That only deals with (roughly) an hours worth of adverts. If you were watching the TDF "live", you'd need a much bigger "lead" to allow 100% ad skipping.

And (for whatever reason) it's very important to some people to watch "truly" live - in which case you're up a certain creek, senza paddle.

BugBear
 
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