Can this drill (for drill stand) be replaced?

[sjalloq]

Hi all,

I'm currently going through my Dad's old workshop trying to find what might be usable from under the layers of dust. I've found the following drill stand which seems in good condition. The drill on the other hand has seen better days. However, the drill seems to be a special build for the drill press and it probably came as a complete set. It's quite stubby and it has a location pin indent on its backside.

The stand has a 43mm clamp and then a threaded rod at the other end designed to be tightened down on the backside of the drill. It actually has a sharp spike but also has a locating 'washer' that fits over the spike and has a 6mm diameter locating pin on the other end. There is about 210mm max between the rod and the 43mm clamp. The drill itself is 250mm from base to chuck.

Can I put any hand drill that will fit in this and tighten down the spike onto it? The clamp isn't as robust as modern day equivalents so perhaps clamping down on the drill added extra rigidity that is needed. Thoughts?

If it's worth trying to find a drill, can anyone suggest one with a dial speed control rather than a trigger control?

 

[Phil Pascoe]

It could be an "Arcoy" iirc, you may find that the collar isn't 43mm, but slightly smaller.

 

[sjalloq]

Thanks! I scoured the internet for ages looking for a similar stand. It's definitely an Arcoy (arcoy-drill-stand-need-a-drill-to-fit-t72639.html) but it's also definitely 43mm. The drill isn't 43mm but it has an aluminium collar round it.

 

[dickm]

Yup, that's an Arcoy right enough - had one for several years and they are beautifully made bits of kit. With one of the nasty looking mortice attachments, using an old 2-speed B&D drill, it made short work of morticing the stiles of an oak five-bar gate.
So, if around the car boots you can find a good condition 1970s/80s Black and Decker, or possibly Wolf drill, the more powerful the better, you are up and running.

 

[sjalloq]

Thanks Dick, but why an old drill?

 

[Phil Pascoe]

Ah, the drill has a collar around it - I seemed to remember that my mate had trouble fitting one, but I couldn't remember which way around it went.

 

[ColeyS1]

Can't help but feel unless it has sentimental value you may be better off getting a cheap pillar drill. from memory I think black and decker drills sometimes have the same indent

 

[Mark A]

No no no! Don't start on vintage tools, it's a downward spiral. Soon you'll find yourself in my position, furiously searching eBay and Gumtree in the early hours of the morning whilst surrounded by 8 circular saws (my particular vice) in various states of restoration.

Do what everyone else does and buy a new Bosch or Dewalt. It'll save your sanity.

 

[sjalloq]

Let me clarify a few things.

I already have a couple of Fobco's that I'm restoring so don't need more projects. If I can find a new drill that fits this stand then I'll use it. I have no intention of trying to find an old hand drill to use. I was more concerned with the mounting mechanism and whether I could get away without having to drill a 6mm hole in the end. Any drill I do buy will also do double duty in drilling through studs for plumbing etc so I'm looking for a drill anyway.

For example, I had been looking at the high torque Metabo Be75-16 but it only has trigger speed control so no use for a drill stand.