What is it called and where can I get one.

[DrPhill]

I need to buy a bit of door furniture, and I am not sure what it is called. It is the bit of metal screwed flat to the door over the (square) knob axle (ha - what does the forum sanitizer make of that?) and lock barrel (I have a euro-cylinder). Is the word escutcheon? or is that the bit that goes on the edge of the door over the latch?

If the word is escutcheon, does anyone have a recommendation for where to get a brass knob (or at a push, handle) and escutcheon set that allows for a euro-cylinder. And I mean brass, not electro plated.

Any and all suggestions welcome.

Thanks in advance

Phill

 

[ChrisR]

Phill.

I don’t know if this supplier will have what you are looking for, but worth a look.
They are a reliable supplier, I have used them many times, and received first case service. =D>

http://www.ironmongeryDirect.com

Take care.

Chris R.

 

[RogerP]

When I'm stuck for stuff like this I generally have a look through Google images ...

http://tinyurl.com/psdoc3b

 

[MMUK]

http://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/sear ... escutcheon

And they also do the latch handles to match all those different styles.

 

[DrPhill]

When I'm stuck for stuff like this I generally have a look through Google images ...

http://tinyurl.com/psdoc3b

That is a good idea. I was thinking of something like this:

but with a knob hopefully, and a hole for a euro cylinder (definitely).

However looking through 'ironmongery direct' maybe a separate knob and key-escutcheon would work.

So thanks for the ideas and links. More are welcome, but at least I know that I am using the right words now.

Oh, and the images had a picture of a matched set of Victorian doorknobs that are perfect to replace *all* the plastic tat that a previous occupant installed instead of the originals. Serendipity.

Thanks to all so far

 

[nanscombe]

Something like Door Knobs on Backplates at World of Brass?

If not, it might give you a place to start.

 

[DrPhill]

Nice site. I have bookmarked it to browse at the weekend. None of the ones on the linked page were euro-cylinder compatible though. I want euro cylinder as the three other doors (upvc) have euro cylinders, and I want to do a key-alike and carry one only key.

 

[Harry 48]

Try looking for [ front door furniture for upvc] Toolstation have a euro lock brass handle page 228 No 25723

 

[DrPhill]

Try looking for [ front door furniture for upvc] Toolstation have a euro lock brass handle page 228 No 25723

Thanks Harry, I have bookmarked that too. So many places to look and I knew none of them. Last time I was doing DIY I was shopping in the 'sheds' and we did not have the internet.

There are many helpful people on this site, to whom I am immensely grateful.

 

[Sheptonphil]

Just to add to the pile, this euro knob set is available keyed alike in different finishes as well. Looks like you need a mortgage to buy one, but it does come with the cylinder.

http://www.lockmonster.co.uk/prod/brito ... 3e-ke.html

Phil

 

[MMUK]

Just to add to the pile, this euro knob set is available keyed alike in different finishes as well. Looks like you need a mortgage to buy one, but it does come with the cylinder.

http://www.lockmonster.co.uk/prod/brito ... 3e-ke.html

Phil

They're a bit heavy duty I reckon, they are designed for fire escape doors - they fit on the outside.

DrPhill, I don't think you'll find a knob and euro cylinder on the same backplate, it'll have to be separates.

 

[heatherw]

I don't know what it's like over there, but here they've been using eurocylinders for a lot longer, I think, and you can get virtually any backplate drilled for a eurocylinder if you buy it at a main stockist. They know all the measurements for different models of lock, though to be fair there aren't that many different ones here. Obviously the lock plate has to be long enough to cover both holes

 

[DrPhill]

Thanks all ..... this has been an interesting learning exercise. I have a tentative solution now, as a direct result of suggestions made in this thread:

One of the posters included a link to a google image search (something that II had not thought of doing) and in their, just by chance, was an image of five matched victorian doorknob sets (complete with circular brass plates and spindles etc). I have tracked this set down to an antiques dealer and agreed a price. A little pricey, but that is likely due to the rarity of a matched set that size. This is just what we need for the downstairs as our originals have mostly been replaced by plastic door furniture. Mostly, because there is one original lacquered brass knob set that can be displaced to the new door. That leaves me just needing a pair of solid brass escutcheons for the euro cylinder itself - an easier task to find.

Another post pointed me at 'hardware direct' where I should be able to get the brass escutcheons, and where I realised (doh) that 'thumb turn' euro cylinders exist. I had always had the key-both-end sort, which are less handy if you need to open the door in a hurry. So now I am going to sort a set of key-alikes (probably from hardware direct too) so I only need one key.

So between you all you have pointed me at several parts of the solution, and a couple of good general search techniques.

Thank you all.

 

[CHJ]

I found this site useful when I was looking for dimensional info. for replacement locks, at least it ensured I got the correct length items.
http://www.eurocylinderlocks.co.uk/thum ... nders.html

 

[DrPhill]

I found this site useful when I was looking for dimensional info. for replacement locks, at least it ensured I got the correct length items.
http://www.eurocylinderlocks.co.uk/thum ... nders.html

Interesting site - if only for a definitive measuring process. I will need to see if they do key-alikes.